• blitzen@lemmy.ca
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    12 days ago

    I’m in full support of this employee and their actions. However, I have a hard time getting too upset at the owner of this Hilton franchise because the right thing is probably firing the employee no matter whose identity they leaked.

    Edit: I get it, unpopular opinion that goes against the hivemind. But if you take out the fact that this was ICE related, the action itself is fireable. I’ll reserve my anger for companies that explicitly help ICE.

    And again, kudos to the employee here. Brave act that took guts.

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      let’s just be clear that it is 100% morally acceptable to leak details about literal nazi operations

      yes, if this happened to most other groups, then the appropriate thing to do would be firing the employee. I do not disagree. but the key point is that it happened to, again, literal nazis.

      this is not an in group or out group thing. this is a “these people literally do not believe your life has any value and will kill you for it without a moment’s hesitation and be cheered for it” thing. you cannot tolerate the intolerant.

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        12 days ago

        Agreed that it’s 100% morally acceptable. I’ll go one step further and say there is the moral imperative to do so.

        But although I would agree we’re seeing gestapo like tactics here, they are not literal nazis. And that’s not to downplay their reprehensible behavior, only to say “literal” and “nazi” have meanings, and these aren’t quite it.

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          the politics of this administration clearly fall under Neo-Nazism ICE is an enforcement arm of this administration, hence they support the administration and fall under the same label

          I’m really not sure why you would think that they can not be classified as Nazis

          I stand behind my use of the term literal Nazis

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              Do you think Nazis arrive in fancy dress, worn by grotesques and monsters as played out in endless re-runs?

              ICE is a neo-nazi organisation.

              Neo-Nazi individuals and organizations employ their ideology to promote what they perceive as the racial or ethnic supremacy (often White supremacy) of their own group; to incite or engage in hatred or discrimination against demographic minorities (often antisemitism and Islamophobia); and, in some cases, to establish a fascist state (e.g., “Fourth Reich”).[1][2]

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Nazism

              In colloquial conversation that is a Nazi. Of course they’re not Germans from the 1930/40s, you’d have to be an extremely obtuse pedant to be arguing that.

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                12 days ago

                No argument from me in colloquially calling ICE Nazis.

                The person to whom I was was replying called them “literal Nazis.”

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      12 days ago

      They didn’t leak an identity. They notified that a terrorist organization was staying there. No identies.

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      Lol, I think someone should explain what “full support” means, preferably with crayons. Your comment shows you’re the stereotypical person in movies who goes along with the Nazis because that’s “just what everyone’s doing!” It’s unfortunate you’ll never understand what the “right thing” truly means…

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        You’ve hired her and letting her live with you?

        No? so “full support” isn’t literal and is whatever you say it is?

        I never said I like the decision of the hotel owner, only that this isn’t the one to be upset over.

        You seem to think companies are going to do the right thing. I’m just happy when the don’t do the overtly wrong thing.