“Signal is being blocked in Venezuela and Russia. The app is a popular choice for encrypted messaging and people trying to avoid government censorship, and the blocks appear to be part of a crackdown on internal dissent in both countries…”

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    3 months ago

    blocks appear to be part of a crackdown on internal dissent in both countries.

    Or… you know… at least for Venezuela, the USA constantly fucking around with their elections and politics and local assets using Signal or something. Maybe, I dunno?

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      3 months ago

      Yeah. Telegram, should be next, there’s a huge risk with it too. And email! Social networks too, just in case. And postal mail, we can’t forget that. We should crack down any form of uncensored communication.

      All for the benefit of the people, of course. \s

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          The current president of Signal is also still happy to do interviews with US-defense-oriented think tanks like Lawfare.

          They probably still are funded by USIntel, considering how interested RFA was in pushing Signal in privacy-oriented spaces.

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        3 months ago

        Self defense is self defense, would we expect some different behavior from a country being attacked from outside interests with publicly accessible end to end encryption services?

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          Publicly accessible: reviewed and audited by hundreds of teams that confirmed there’s no backdoor. Venezuelan, Russian and Chinese governments didn’t find the holes, even having access to the code. If they did, they would be exploiting it to… reeducate.

          Yeah, I would expect to trust that. Still, you said yourself, the problem is that is used by dissidents. And we can’t have that, right?

          • Open source, except when they do not publish it. Funded incredibly heavily buy the United States Intelegency Agencies. That would be more than enough to raise red flags for any nation that is not on the best terms with the United States.

            Signal in all likelyhood is a honey pot

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              Funded by the US? Well thats the entire internet, including Tor, Linux and Matrix…

              Amazing how much BS is spread here

              • The server is arguably more important, that is where the data and meta data itself are stored. Linux has never hid its source code for a year, and matrix can be self hosted.

                I mean if you want to trust a honey pot go right ahead

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                  3 months ago

                  Your claim about it being a honey pot is entirely baseless. There is a significantly better chance you are working for the US to prevent people from using signal…

                  • Yes because the US does not want you useing a central server in its jurisdiction so it can force the organistation to give out all the meta data while not being alowed to alert anyone. How dare you use something that could give the US so much information in one easy package

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        3 months ago

        We can’t have individual thinkers running around can we. We need a shared vision that is dictated from the top down.

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      I’m pretty sure Venezuela was unstable before the US started getting involved.

      Anyway Signal is secure so that shouldn’t be the problem. It has more to do with the government working to crush civil liberties and independent thought.

      Same story in all authoritarian countries

      • ☭ Comrade Pup Ivy 🇨🇺@lemmygrad.ml
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        First no Venezuela was stable before US medeling.

        Second, “is secure” is quite a leap, it is funded to a sickening extent by the United States government, has gone about a year before opening up its source code, and is in the US where there is a law that says if the US government says show us everything and keep quiet, they have to do that. There are real concerns

        Or you can uncriticaly say “Athoritarian Country” with no defineing term there, or real understanding of Athoritarianism and disreguard all concerns from these countries.

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          The US government funds it because they use it heavily. I think you should pay for software you use.

          Also Venezuela has never really been stable. You could argue that the US made it worse but honesty the problem is everyone getting involved.