So I’ve been in the rabbit hole of android privacy for some time, last I joined the GrapheneOS community but let’s just say that they doesn’t have a “healthy” opinion about other projects like f-droid.

So I am looking for generic communities that focus on mobile privacy that doesn’t have drama or toxicity or “extreme opinions”. Any suggestions? I prefer chat based communities like matrix or simplex instead of like reddit or lemmy.

  • Autonomous User@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    3 months ago

    ‘Just trust me bro’ hardware, Google Play Integrity API, banned and GrapheneOS is still simping it.

    Running away doesn’t fix this.

  • BearOfaTime@lemm.ee
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    3 months ago

    Two words: Fuck Graphene

    (More words): and the assholes who run it.

    I’ve been flashing phones since my OG Droid in 2009. Done probably 200+ flashes across numerous phones.

    I’ve been in IT since the early 90’s.

    Had an error with the Graphene flash on a clean Pixel. The way they talked to me would’ve gotten me a re-training session with my management, possibly fired, back when I was on a help desk.

    Bunch of arrogant, condescending pricks. They need a Red Foreman boot up their ass.

  • Libb@jlai.lu
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    3 months ago

    So I am looking for generic communities that focus on mobile privacy that doesn’t have drama or toxicity or “extreme opinions”. Any suggestions?

    the excessive and constant noise a limited number of people is making, their rage when it’s not pure hatred against whatever they don’t like or whoever they don’t agree with, is the main reason why, a Linux user worrying about privacy myself, I decided to stop wasting my time online with any such ‘tech’ communities. It has become almost impossible to have an open and calm discussion on any topic without someone jumping in and barking like some crazy dog — because reasons.

    No matter what their reasons or motivations are to be angry or hateful, I have zero desire to listen to endless rabid barking. There isn’t much to learn in that, at least when you’re not a dog.

    And I have no time for that either: we only have a limited amount of time to live before the game is over and there is no extra life to get, no second chance. I realized that a few years ago and decided I would not waste a second more of my time dealing with those constantly frustrated or hateful people. In tech or elsewhere.

    Tech-wise, I have had much more stimulating and enriching discussions in communities that are not tech (or privacy or security or Linux)-related but communities where tech can still be discussed and debated (including by very competent tech people) just always in a broader discussion that don’t focus on tech itself.

    • lord___vader@sh.itjust.worksOP
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      3 months ago

      It’s sad that so many good projects is plagued by this crap. Like did we forget about the whole “respect other people’s opinions” thing?

      • Libb@jlai.lu
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        3 months ago

        Like did we forget about the whole “respect other people’s opinions” thing?

        I cant say if we have forgotten it or not, but it sure looks like we don’t want to hear about it very much.

        It’s all turned binary (pun intended): you’re with us or you’re against us, either you’re good or you’re evil (and then, you deserve to be eliminated). Which is as saddening as it is is… stupid.

    • jet@hackertalks.comEnglish
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      3 months ago

      Fdroid is introducing another trusted party to your supply chain, which should be a factor in anyone’s threat molding.

      https://f-droid.org/docs/Reproducible_Builds/ However, with reproducible builds now a package is built and signed by both fdroid and the original developer, so you get a net security benefit of having a third party attesting they can independently reproduce the binary from source. Problem solved right? Well, yes but mostly no. Most projects and packages don’t have reproducible builds, so if your using fdroid for most packages your still trusting droid.

      I think a lot of the online hate comes from people making assumptions that their use case and threat model applies to everyone. That’s why I prefer discourse where we just talk about the attributes and not “you should”