• Nate Cox@programming.dev
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    9 hours ago

    Safari definitely gets more hate than it deserves. I find it to be perfectly acceptable.

    I would prefer more competition though, even though I know today it’ll be a ton of “cram some AI into it” slop.

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      8 hours ago

      Personally, I find Safari to be a goddamn amazing browser, especially considering a lot of its features. People here, the free and open source folk, absolutely hate it on the sole purpose that it is owned by a corporation. And, although it does share user data, anonymize’s that data to a great degree, and also prevents fingerprinting. Also, Apple does not sell it data that it collects, they only use it for internal purposes.

      I find no problem with that. I think another huge issue is the difficulty in writing Safari extensions – – especially, that you have to pay for access to the developer store (although they may have changed that for Safari ext devs).

      I’m a user experience, designer, so whenever gives the best experience to the end user is, obviously, the correct choice. There’s only so much the “experts” get to have a say in how any random individual uses the tools at the disposal.

      That said, I absolutely love Safari as a web browser, but I definitely understand how a lot of people do not.

      • dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net
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        4 hours ago

        Regarding extensions, my understanding is that Apple makes it hard to prevent a bunch of trash extensions showing up that don’t do anything worthwhile.

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          3 hours ago

          I have no idea exactly what that means.

          But Apple provides extensions for most functionalities, but, as you mentioned, they’re more limited because Apple used to require that extension developers register a $100 per year account in order to develop extensions.

          They don’t do this anymore, but it was a big reason why Safari got held back, especially in the beginning of the browser wars.