• Sabre363@sh.itjust.works
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    4 months ago

    So he’s old and maybe doesn’t know what’s going on anymore, what a surprise. Maybe don’t elect yet another one that has repeatedly proven themselves to be a blathering idiot AND malicious.

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      4 months ago

      Both are blathering idiots, and both are malicious, the positions held are different but neither Presidential Candidate can be considered “good.”

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        4 months ago

        Not sure I would ever describe Biden’s behavior as malicious, unless ofc I missed something. Trump, on the other hand, is almost always verbally attacking someone else or otherwise sowing dissent. Kinda the definition of malicious intent.

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          Genocide isn’t malicious? Could’ve fooled me. Furthering Imperialism, ie maintaining hegemony against the Global South is another major issue, of course. We can go back and forth but at the end of the day, Biden is a Neoliberal Right Winger in charge of the world’s largest Empire, his hands aren’t clean.

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            I think you might have a somewhat warped understanding of what the office of President actually is. Sure it has tremendous influence over the higher branches of the federal government and therefore the nation, and to a lesser extent the world. But, the office is hardly all powerful or even particularly capable of making all the decisions. The President can never be wholly to blame for all the bad things happening in the world, as much as we’d all like too.

            Also, at no point have I actually argued that either one of our favorite culturally relevant old guys is good or bad. I only ever hinted at the inherent intent behind their actions and words, and questioned the soundness of electing someone that takes perverse joy in proving that he’s an overcooked cunt. Biden at the very least tries to mumble his way to kindness.

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              I think you might have a somewhat warped understanding of what the office of President actually is.

              Not at all, I just disagree with you politically.

              Sure it has tremendous influence over the higher branches of the federal government and therefore the nation, and to a lesser extent the world. But, the office is hardly all powerful or even particularly capable of making all the decisions.

              The President can be held accountable for their actions, and the people they put into positions of power. Bypassing Congress to send more aid to Israel wasn’t a requirement, but Biden is a self-admitted Zionist.

              The President can never be wholly to blame for all the bad things happening in the world, as much as we’d all like too.

              Nope, just the decisions they’ve made, including maintaining the status quo of a crumbling genocidal empire and handing the win over to Trump.

              Also, at no point have I actually argued that either one of our favorite culturally relevant old guys is good or bad.

              You did, by implying genocide can be done with positive intent.

              I only ever hinted at the inherent intent behind their actions and words, and questioned the soundness of electing someone that takes perverse joy in proving that he’s an overcooked cunt.

              Trump is appealing to his voterbase, that’s politics. Biden could take a lesson or two from that and actually try to energize his base, or else we will see Trump in office again.

              Biden at the very least tries to mumble his way to kindness.

              No, he doesn’t, this is you projecting your idealism onto a career politician, and a Neoliberal at that.

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                Not at all, I just disagree with you politically.

                Kinda hard to know if that’s true considering I still haven’t stated any political opinions. However, since that’s clearly what you want, I think practically every politician (or anyone in a significant position of power) on the planet is a massive fucking tool barely deserving of the title of human, not exactly what I’d call idealism. Trump and Biden may both fit this description, but I’m still not naive enough to put them together on the podium of shitty human beings.

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                  Kinda hard to know if that’s true considering I still haven’t stated any political opinions.

                  This entire discussion has been political opinion. You don’t have to spell out “I want xyz policy/system” for something to be political.

                  However, since that’s clearly what you want, I think practically every politician (or anyone in a significant position of power) on the planet is a massive fucking tool barely deserving of the title of human and not exactly what I’d call idealism.

                  Got it, then we agree that Biden is a malicious monster commiting genocide and we don’t need to “actually, he’s a smol bean kind grandpa in a bad system” him.

                  Trump and Biden may both fit this description, but I’m still not naive enough to put them together on the podium of shitty human beings.

                  Where is the line you would put them both close enough to have them on the podium of shitty human beings? Both are genocidal Zionists, that’s pretty bad. Both support American Imperialism, that’s pretty bad too. Biden is softer on LGBT issues than Trump, this is true, but having a less anti-LGBT stance doesn’t erase the blood on his hands.