• spinning_disk_engineer@lemmy.ca
    3·
    6 days ago

    Consider if a theme could accomplish what you want: It seems like they all use firefox under the hood, and if all you want is appearance, you shouldn’t need to change your entire browser. Keeping in mind that a smaller fingerprinting pool is less anonymous, if you care about that.

    I haven’t actually used any other than librewolf though, so if switching provides any features you care about, go for it.

  • irmadlad@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3·
    6 days ago

    I generally tend to stay with browsers I know. It’s tedious enough hardening Firefox and getting everything down to a note. I do have Librefox onboard but I rarely use it.

      • irmadlad@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        5 days ago

        I’ve used a few tutorials online, and was looking through my bookmarks. This one is pretty good:

        https://brainfucksec.github.io/firefox-hardening-guide

        I also run Enhanced Tracking Protection in the ‘Privacy and Security’ settings in firefox at Custom with all options ticked except:

        • Allow Firefox to automatically apply exceptions required to avoid major website breakage.
        • Also apply exceptions automatically that are only required to fix minor issues and make convenience features available.

        Whatever breaks, breaks.

        Additionally, ‘DNS over HTTPS’ set at Max Protection.

        Again, whatever breaks breaks and I move on to another site.

          • irmadlad@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            4 days ago

            The privacy/security struggle is real.

            Solidarity my brother. If I can’t bend a website to my will, screw it. The info is more than likely duplicated across the internet anyways.

  • Ardens@lemmy.ml
    4·
    7 days ago

    I think that it’s your browser, your choice.

    I use Firefox, and don’t worry about a thing. :-) Not even what you like for a browser.

    • mymyredpanda@lemmygrad.ml
      2·
      6 days ago

      It’s looks alright only problem might be it’s a very small project so updates might be off idk they mostly took librewolf privacy /security and floorp customization and smashed it into one web browser

  • theherk@lemmy.world
    1·
    7 days ago

    I have used Zen a lot since the early days and it has been very good. Suits my needs perfectly. However, recently I started testing out Orion and it has also been very nice. It has very good privacy and is WebKit if you’re into that. I’m just happy with anything not Blink.

      • Zerush@lemmy.ml
        2·
        6 days ago

        No, Blink is the render engine of Chromium, same as Gecko in Firefox. Blink is one of the forks of KHTML, made by KDE, same as WebKit. It is used by Google use it in the Chrome browser and also EDGE, Opera, Brave, Vivaldi and other, forks of Blink are Qt browsers, eg. Otter browser or Falcon. Goanna is an fork from Gecko, used by eg. Pale Moon, Basilisk and K-Melon. But these forks only making sense for older devices and OS with few sys specs, due to limited functionality and compatibilities with certain web contents. Qt engines because of this more used in auxiliar app, eg. mail clients.

        There are only this three engines + the 2 forks, which can be used by the current browsers, apart of some basic engines used by text only browsers, like eg Lynx or Links

  • manualoverride@lemmy.world
    25·
    7 days ago

    I genuinely thought this was satire, never heard of either and have only just started with LibreWolf… now I have more options to research!

    • eldavi@lemmy.mlEnglish
      4·
      6 days ago

      same here; this comm is always good at making me aware of what i don’t know (which is a lot. lol)

  • FrodoSpark@piefed.socialEnglish
    10·
    7 days ago

    I use Floorp, haven’t tried Zen though. I remember some drama of Floorp temporarily closing it’s source but I believe it’s open source now. I like it for the side bar it comes with, it’s pretty useful for multitasking but I guess you could just open two windows and place them side by side

  • optissima@lemmy.ml
    167·
    7 days ago

    Zen left dev mode on in prod so everyone using it was exposed and the dev played it down iirc

    • brrt@sh.itjust.works
      371·
      7 days ago

      A dev made a mistake when the product was still in alpha and fixed it immediately after becoming aware of it. Let’s never use the product ever again!

      • optissima@lemmy.ml
        52·
        7 days ago

        I guess I didnt remember it correctly, and I do still use it after they fixed it. What’s with the tone?

        • rumba@lemmy.zipEnglish
          7·
          7 days ago

          Not OP, Remember, it’s hard to read true tone through text. It read to me is sarcasm, but not particularly spicy, and also not entirely inaccurate.

          I do wish we could all have less tone issues. This place is getting a bit toxic, but fuck, it’s still better than Reddit.

          ;)

  • Kiuyn@lemmy.mlEnglish
    7·
    7 days ago

    I’ve switched from Librewolf to Zen for a few months now, and it’s been great so far. There is all the fun features like the essentials tab, and the tab groups. Also Zen Mods is super cool. It is like a repo of css mods for zen.

    There was some controversy about the debug thing, but as others pointed out, it happened during the alpha phase, when the development team is still new to the project.

    For hardening, you can use Arkenfox, Betterfox, or Phoenix. All of these work on Zen (I’ve tried them all). Librewolf is based on Arkenfox, so if you use it, you’ll get most of Librewolf’s privacy features. I recommend Arkenfox. Personally, I believe Betterfox is a balance take between privacy and usability, while Phoenix is the most extreme option. Arkenfox offers stronger privacy features than Betterfox but is not as extreme as Phoenix.

    Edits: also don’t forget uBlock :)

  • codenul@lemmy.ml
    7·
    7 days ago

    Both are using Firefox base

    I like to test browsers through www.browseraudit.com although im not sure how reliable the results are. I tend to stick with Browsers that score high 390’s / 400.

    In case you are wondering, Floorp scored a 400, while Zen scored a 397. Not bad at all

    Weird that both taskbar icons for both browsers are the same? (Yellow circle with white “W” on it). Both were downloaded for linux, zipped.