Statements dreamt up by the utterly deramged: “Hi, we are a new federated server. COMPLY WITH OUR RULES OR WE WILL NOT FEDERATE WITH YOU”
Rational people: “Okay, that was always allowed. Bye.”
So, fill it with porn? Or is simple nudity enough to be banned/defederated from threads?
How many pictures of my arse does the instance need to keep the zuckerbots away?
I suppose there’s only one way to find out…
Don’t have a publicly-viewable federated timeline. Bam, blocked.
BTW: Public instances of Hubzilla and (streams) never have such a thing. They could, they do have the technology, but the admins always decide against activating it in order not to be held liable for content that comes in from the rest of the Fediverse.
On Hubzilla, there is a way to make the public stream available and only show posts from that server. But most Hubzilla admins never turn it on and probably don’t know it exists.
As an administrator, the only time you would want to turn on the public stream is if you are a public hub and accept new signups. It makes it easier for administrators and moderators to moderate the public content on their own server since they can see all public posts in one place. If someone is posting illegal content or spam, a moderator can see it, and remove it (and perhaps the user too).
But private instances don’t need this since everyone on the server is trusted.
As an administrator, the only time you would want to turn on the public stream is if you are a public hub and accept new signups. It makes it easier for administrators and moderators to moderate the public content on their own server since they can see all public posts in one place. If someone is posting illegal content or spam, a moderator can see it, and remove it (and perhaps the user too).
Even then, it wouldn’t be a federated public stream that’s in plain sight for any visitor. At most, it’d be a local pubstream in plain sight for anyone. Or a federated public stream only visible to local users.
At least by German law, hubmins can be held liable for what’s happening on the pubstream because it’s happening on their “website”, and so they’re responsible for it. And remember that most public Hubzilla hubs and the two biggest ones are German.
Serious question, why does no one want threads on the fediverse? Folding more people in to fill up the empty space doesn’t seem bad to me.
Got it. Makes sense looking at through lenses like that
There are concerns that your publicly posted information would scooped up by bots that scrap up public information on the web. Or more specifically, be used by Meta to build a profile on you, which it already does even if you don’t federate with Threads.
People who are concerned about this usually choose not to federate with Threads, but they also would need to block bots and Meta specifically to fully be protected.
Others don’t share their concerns as much, or are more selective about what they post publicly. Some platforms allow you to post privately, for example, and unless you are communicating with someone on Threads, Threads would never see it even if you were federated with Threads.
The content you post on the fediverse is already public. You’re not giving Meta any less information by defederating.
If you decide to make it public. Or if you’re on something that doesn’t leave you any choice like Lemmy.
If you’re on Hubzilla or (streams), and you’ve grokked it enough to use it accordingly, then you can actually post content in private to only selected users.
There are two common fallacies. One, the Fediverse is inherently private because it isn’t corporate. Two, the Fediverse is inherently public because everything on Mastodon or Lemmy or whatever is the only Fediverse project you’re familiar with is public.
If you’re on Hubzilla or (streams), and you’ve grokked it enough to use it accordingly, then you can actually post content in private to only selected users.
Okay, but then Meta won’t be able to see it even if you federate with Threads (unless you share the content with Threads users), so I still don’t see your point.
My point is that not everything in the Fediverse is public. Unlike what Mastodon and Lemmy users keep claiming because that’s all they know.
@Jupiter Rowland The public stream, if turned on, would only show the public posts. Not the private ones.
Both Hubzilla and (streams), in practice the only Fediverse server apps that have a “public stream” and users other than the dev, can do a lot to keep content private.
But tell that to the Mastodon users who only know Mastodon and the Lemmy users who only know Lemmy, both of whom “know” that nothing in the Fediverse is private because nothing on Lemmy and effectively nothing on Mastodon is private.
