• Miles O'Brien@startrek.website
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    Statements dreamt up by the utterly deramged: “Hi, we are a new federated server. COMPLY WITH OUR RULES OR WE WILL NOT FEDERATE WITH YOU”

    Rational people: “Okay, that was always allowed. Bye.”

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    Serious question, why does no one want threads on the fediverse? Folding more people in to fill up the empty space doesn’t seem bad to me.

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      There are concerns that your publicly posted information would scooped up by bots that scrap up public information on the web. Or more specifically, be used by Meta to build a profile on you, which it already does even if you don’t federate with Threads.

      People who are concerned about this usually choose not to federate with Threads, but they also would need to block bots and Meta specifically to fully be protected.

      Others don’t share their concerns as much, or are more selective about what they post publicly. Some platforms allow you to post privately, for example, and unless you are communicating with someone on Threads, Threads would never see it even if you were federated with Threads.

      • xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org
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        The content you post on the fediverse is already public. You’re not giving Meta any less information by defederating.

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          If you decide to make it public. Or if you’re on something that doesn’t leave you any choice like Lemmy.

          If you’re on Hubzilla or (streams), and you’ve grokked it enough to use it accordingly, then you can actually post content in private to only selected users.

          There are two common fallacies. One, the Fediverse is inherently private because it isn’t corporate. Two, the Fediverse is inherently public because everything on Mastodon or Lemmy or whatever is the only Fediverse project you’re familiar with is public.

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            If you’re on Hubzilla or (streams), and you’ve grokked it enough to use it accordingly, then you can actually post content in private to only selected users.

            Okay, but then Meta won’t be able to see it even if you federate with Threads (unless you share the content with Threads users), so I still don’t see your point.

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              My point is that not everything in the Fediverse is public. Unlike what Mastodon and Lemmy users keep claiming because that’s all they know.

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                  Both Hubzilla and (streams), in practice the only Fediverse server apps that have a “public stream” and users other than the dev, can do a lot to keep content private.

                  But tell that to the Mastodon users who only know Mastodon and the Lemmy users who only know Lemmy, both of whom “know” that nothing in the Fediverse is private because nothing on Lemmy and effectively nothing on Mastodon is private.