• Gointhefridge@lemm.ee
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    8 days ago

    Apple hardware is pretty good.

    I fought the good fight for years, but modern windows and android hardware is shit in comparison.

    Queue the Linux crowd. Listen I like Linux, but every day usability with minimal tinkering isn’t there. Apple stuff just works, and there’s merit to that now.

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      6 days ago

      I would have to lightly disagree about Linux. I think for the average person, just using a browser and occasionally editing a document, some distros are absolutely plug and play.

      Installing it can be overwhelming for people unfamiliar but once it’s installed there’s not much to do aside from use it.

      My sisters been using Linux for years since most of her schooling has been online, she was on mint for a while and then I switched her to Fedora. The gnome interface was the biggest hurdle to get over and she figured it out in about 10 minutes. She uses firefox, libre office for documents and sheets, the software app to keep everything up to date and install stuff. That’s all there really is to it. The only time she’s ever called me for help is when she changed her password and forgot what it was.

      I think if it came pre installed people would do fine.

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      6 days ago

      The hardware is usually ok. Nowadays it isn’t underpowered like it used to be and they have an OS that actually works. But it’s still the logic of MacOS which doesn’t work for everybody. It’s not at all something that “just works”. It’s something that’s “my way or the highway”. And if you can’t figure out what it’s way is, well, tough.

      I once bought an Apple laptop after staying away from their machines for ages (since the very early ones). It lasted about 3 months until I went back to a KDE laptop. I found it to be the most irritating thing ever. Everything seemed to be designed to be an annoyance. It definitely didn’t work for me. So I went back to something that did.

      If it works for you, great. Don’t assume it does for everyone though.

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        6 days ago

        It absolutely does not work for everyone and every situation. However, I now see the value and merit of you just turn it on and it does the thing. In a lot of cases, there’s minimal resistance because its designed to give minimal resistance. It seems a bit limiting, but some of that design is to minimize user confusion and error, especially for lay people.

        When I started to lose the things that made android great I switched to iphone. Now that Windows is really starting to turn to a shit sandwhich, I’ll probably switch to Mac fully.

        They may have (slightly) walled gardens, but they are very seamlessly integrated with each other.

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      7 days ago

      Apple hardware had always been decent, but I don’t understand the point of macos. If you can work entirely in the browser, than why waste the money on apple? Just grab a chrome book.

      If your job requires software, macos is trash. Basic functions like window snapping are still missing. Gaming is non existent. Obscene memory requirements with nothing under 32gb usable for any real work.

      I’ve been daily driving Linux for decades and occasionally use Windows, but any time I’m forced to use macos I’m just really confused why people would do that to themselves and then pay 3x the price for decent hardware.

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        7 days ago

        Some programs for animation are starting to work better on macs, right after I finished building my first PC. I will likely end up having to use both in the future anyway.

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        7 days ago

        Logic. Final cut. Those are the two best reasons for MacOS. Everything else is FINE and I’ll generally agree, but windows is dogshit when it comes to editing media especially when there’s any kind of I/O device attached.

        I have steam on my Mac mini and its generally fine. Sure it doesn’t play everything, but it can run plenty of games just fine. But I also own a steam deck and windows 10 PC so I’m a bad example.

        I have a 16 GB Mac mini and logic is perfect. Pro tools was garbage on my windows PC.

        Final cut is infinitely better than any windows video editing software.

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            6 days ago

            Fair, but I haven’t edited movies in a few years and never got a chance to use Davinci. Either way, Macs are generally good with media.

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      7 days ago

      Apple stuff just works

      People say this and then pretend to enjoy their lives without window snapping or having a UI worse than GNOME, which I cannot understand lol.

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        7 days ago

        Not wanting to be “that guy” but……

        Ack-sh-wa-ly…. Apple added window snapping in the latest release of MacOS.

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        One of the first things I did after upgrading to the new MacOS was turn off window snapping after just five minutes of fighting with it. If that’s the best quality of life feature that Windows has you can keep it. I need my windows to stay where I put them, not second guess me, or try to help me.

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          7 days ago

          ?

          Is the Apple way of snapping windows different from everyone else?

          Everyone else has to bring the cursor holding the window all the way to the edge of the monitor to make it snap. It’s not really something you can do by accident unless you have an extremely small screen or really poor hand-eye coordination. Unless you specifically snap a window, it stays where you leave it. Does MacOs do it really aggressively?

          I can’t imagine living without window snapping. Half of time I spend on a computer is moving data from one window to another, or comparing 2 things. having to alt+tab between them or work out of unevenly sized windows where I can’t see everything I need to would drive me insane very quick.

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      7 days ago

      Listen I like Linux, but every day usability with minimal tinkering isn’t there. Apple stuff just works, and there’s merit to that now.

      Thank you. I’ve been saying this for so long. People like to act like Linux distros in 2024 are now plug and play without any tinkering. No, they still are absolutely not. Yes, they’ve gotten significantly better over the years…by many leaps and bounds honestly. But that are still absolutely nowhere near the level of making sense for a non-tech person unless you set it up and do the tinkering for them. And no, it still isn’t good for games unless your library is all in Steam. Many of us don’t use Steam for most of our games.

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        7 days ago

        No one should force any operating system on you. It is your personal choice and space.

        Linux nerds might argue that their Vim/Emacs/Nano workflow is the bestest/fastest/etcetc but none of them will truly wish you to switch without your willingness in the process.

        Corporations like Microshit and Duh’Apple do exploit their users and customers.

        Consider Louis rossmann and others why Apple suxs.