420blazeit69 [he/him]

You’re going to bat for the collective punishment of the Cuban people. When is the collective punishment of civilians appropriate in your mind?

You’re also supporting a policy that has failed to achieve its stated result for 65 years. What other long-term policy failures do you support?

the vast majority of its citizens don’t have citizenship in any other country and have literally nowhere else to go. Therefore it’s not a colony

It directly refutes this.

If you’re leaning on Israel being formally independent, they’re about as independent from the West (particularly the U.S.) as a college freshman getting their tuition paid by Mom and Dad. No one here is talking about Israel being independent on paper, we’re talking about how it interacts with other countries in reality.

When the British expelled criminals to Australia they couldn’t return home. Was Australia not a colony? A ton of European immigrants to the American colonies intended their journeys to be one-way trips, and were functionally barred from returning by cost. Does that mean there were no colonies in the Americas?

Besides, throughout history you almost never see settlers leaving en masse when colonial administrations end. Sure, some recent arrivees may turn around, and some administrators who moved there mostly to work in the colonial government may leave, but you really never see the main body of settlers leave. You didn’t even have this in South Africa. They simply have to live under a government where they can’t shoot the locals with impunity.

Let’s set aside the multiple issues with “I think one of my distant ancestors lived here 2000 years ago, or maybe just other members of my religious group, therefore I have a right to live here today” and assume that yes, that sort of historical/ancestral claim gives comtemporary Jewish people a right to live in Palestine. Even in the most generous light imaginable, it would not give them a right to build an ethnostate by committing genocide on the current inhabitants. Israel is so far past anything that could be reasonably granted from ancient Jews living in Palestine that there is no possible defense along those lines.

Or are we strictly talking about western powers giving the Jewish people a ‘homeland’ after the second world war and the holocaust?

Yes, that’s what people mean when they refer to Israel as a colony of Europe/the U.S.

“Why do people want to talk about stuff that affects their daily lives so damn much???”

“I know why the Hexbear ppbs”

Someone learned something here!

Ha you were conclusively proven wrong and didn’t even blink. A brain so smooth no facts can get stuck on it.

Lol Hu is 80 years young, just like our boy

Oh I think he’s talking about FDR, the most popular president in U.S. history and one consistently ranked amongst the best