We’ve been having this discussion in the group I game/ play TTRPGs with. Like 7 of us total all windows, me and another switched to Linux, a third is a computational scientist who is forced to work with redhat frequently, and a fourth member was thinking of switching. After me and member 2 switched, member 4 saw that we had problems (entirely discord for me, all games have honestly worked so far) and changed his mind about switching because he doesn’t want to deal with stuff not working OOTB.

I can’t fault people who want that, hell I do, Linux is well worth it to me but I will begrudgingly admit there are draw backs to Linux.

I can’t read German but I definitely believe it was translated. I completely missed the 42 being a reference to hitchhikers guide to the galaxy, I was hoping y’all came up with a new funny number haha.

Damn 42 was the one I didn’t know, I forgot about the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy

Post link: https://feddit.org/post/2443798

Which is exactly why pet owners shouldn’t be fucking with it, maybe down the road but as it stands right now the average pet owner shouldn’t be experimenting on their poor kitties.

https://lemm.ee/comment/14432604

Hey that’s a really good point lets see what scientific literature says about that:

4.1. Evidence Considerations-To date, only sixteen studies have looked at actual health-related outcomes in dogs and cats fed vegan diets, as opposed to performing nutrient evaluations of diets. However, the majority of these studies utilized small sample sizes (ranging from 2–34 animals) for the direct investigation of outcomes. Whilst survey studies evaluating guardian-reported outcomes generally encompassed larger numbers of animals, these are subject to inherent biases due to participant selection, as well as the reliability of lay people making judgements around somewhat subjective concepts, such as health and body condition.

It then goes on to say:

The risk of bias assessment performed on the experimental trials suggests, at best, an unclear risk of bias across the studies. There were some particular aspects of poor performance (or reporting), especially around randomization and blinding. This has been reported previously in animal studies [42], where researchers have probably not taken on board some of these important facets of experimental design and reporting to the extent that human clinical researchers have [43,44]. This remains a major concern impeding reproducibility, and where internal validity of the study is impacted, also leads to wastage of animal and financial resources [42].

Seems like the science backs your claim up partially. I would call it bias instead of lying though.

Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9860667/

See my above comment that directly pulls quotes directly from peer reviewed primary scientific literature.

Yes I can because I actually read the peer reviewed primary source please see my above comment.

I don’t understand why people upvote summaries that don’t even try to be objective.

I don’t understand how you guys are ignoring your own sources, please see my above comment.

Did you actually read the article? Cause I did and here are some highlights from the article regarding felines specifically:

Sample sizes are tiny

3.2. Feline Studies-Meta-analysis was considered if more than one study presented the same outcome data. However, meta-analyses of these data were not possible due to (1) differences or lack of a comparison group, e.g., a meat-based diet comparator or (2) no presentation of a measure of central tendency or dispersion to input into the model.

Hypokalemia is: a low level of potassium (K+) in the blood serum.[1] Mild low potassium does not typically cause symptoms.[3] Symptoms may include feeling tired, leg cramps, weakness, and constipation.[1] Low potassium also increases the risk of an abnormal heart rhythm, which is often too slow and can cause cardiac arrest

3.2.1. Hematology/Biochemistry-Only three studies [27,29,30] have carried out hematological and/or biochemical analysis of blood in cats that were fed vegetarian diets, and it is worth noting that sample sizes were low. Cats on a high-protein vegetarian diet exhibited hypokalemia which accompanied recurrent polymyopathy [29]. There was also increased creatinine kinase activity, likely reflecting the muscle damage caused by the myopathy, and reduced urinary potassium concentrations.

Myopathy is: a disease of the muscle[1] in which the muscle fibers do not function properly.

3.2.3. Clinical Findings-In cats fed vegetarian diets that were supplemented with potassium, a myopathy was seen within 2 weeks of the dietary change [29]. This was characterized by ventroflexion of the head and the neck. The cats also showed lateral head resting, a stiff gait, muscular weakness, unsteadiness, and the occasional tremor of the head and pinnae… Weight loss and poor coat condition have also been observed in cats fed vegetarian diets [29,30]. However, most cats in another study had a normal coat condition and no obviously diet-related clinical abnormalities picked up by clinical examination [27]. Clinical signs of lethargy with altered mentation, dysorexia, and muscle wasting, along with gut signs of bloating and increased borborygmi have also been observed [30].

These are guardian based reports which means there is significant bias from the owner to report positive effects and look over the negatives

3.2.4. Guardian-Reported Health Effects-Guardians generally believed that the transition to a meat-free diet had been positive. These studies are valuable, as large sample sizes of respondents (animals) are generally employed. Some guardians did notice an increase in stool volume but noted no issues with consistency [27]. When considering other aspects, coat condition was shinier [27], there was an improved scent of their animals (particularly relating to breath odor) [27], there was a tendency to be at the ideal body condition score rather than being obese [28,31].

This is about as close as you can get to justifying it , IF you fixate on ONE aspect and ignore everything else in the journal article:

Dodd et al. (2021) [31] collected dietary information for 1026 cats, of whom 187 were fed vegan diets. The latter were more frequently reported by guardians to be in very good health. They had more ideal body condition scores and were less likely to suffer from gastrointestinal and hepatic disorders than cats that were fed meat. No health disorders were found to be more likely in cats that were fed vegan diets. The reported differences were statistically significant.

So please explain to me how myopathy setting in and causing tremors after only two weeks of transitioning to a non meat based diet is good for cats?

So for the record you are dead flat wrong by your own damn source because you didn’t read it or you ignored all the bad parts.

reproduction studies

What the hell are you talking about, what is a reproduction study?

You either mean a reproducible study or a study specifically on something reproducing which is irrelevant. Again you don’t even know what you are talking about and 3 from college, I work in industry now so I don’t publish. We also directly collaborate with a large university and a national laboratory, so I know a thing or two about how grant funding is acquired from both an academic and industrial side(industries such as mine actually fund studies that do get publicly published). There are absolutely issues with politics in academia, it just isn’t what you are describing.

As someone who’s been a STEM researcher for about a decade, this person has no clue what they are talking about

Criticize the hell out of them man, I do it on a daily basis as well. Just know you ain’t doing shit but yapping unless you bring some plans to the table.

Oh yeah these people don’t ever ever ever give actual solutions on how to achieve any goals. They just constantly criticize and then act like the victim when you call out how absurdly outside reality they are.

As an organizer in my free time it’s hardly unrealistic to suggest other people do the same.

Im sure as someone who does it everyday you do think that

God forbid political power take work and time. Better to be ineffectual and rhetorically entrench the sociopathic status quo, eh

This is the largest point I’m trying to make the time and effort it will take cannot be completed before the election. I mean you even agreed:

Do you think this can be organized 1 before the election, 2 before the election with enough time to actually change things in it

Your response was No.

Yes. This is how it has been for hundreds of years. People with less time and means did far more than this

Do you think every American agrees and will just jump on board?

And to defend the status quo.

No defending it I hate it but stop acting like it can change before the election, it is not enough time which is my point, not a defense.

How much time do you spend on social media, for example? Why not spend that time organizing meetings?

Couple hours after work, 10 mins before work, and while shitting. Drive times alone wouldn’t be meet with this time.

How on earty could you ever take credit for anything?

Don’t know what I took credit for but sure

Do you even live in a swing state?

Do you even live in America?

They want us to magically fix all the problems overnight, while blaming us for everything in the meantime.

You gonna bother explaining the MAS movement and provide a reasonable road map for how to achieve it?

Nah it’s easy just rewire the whole government in your free time, that’s what I don’t understand about these people. They have all these great ideas about organizing and starting this and changing that. The suggestions they give are just not realistic in our society currently, but they act like you’re the problem for voting.

Y’all understand that your little suggestion of starting a whole ass movement with the only resource of “unified voters” in one of the most diverse countries in the world will take a ton of time right ?

I’ll even play let’s say we:

If you care how you vote, you should be getting organized with likeminded people to create a voting block that makes demands

Do you think this can be organized 1 before the election, 2 before the election with enough time to actually change things in it, 3 by people working full time jobs and probably living paycheck to paycheck 4 while being fought back against the entire time by media oligarchy? No it isn’t realistic

What is realistic is trying to save the country from a centralization of powers into the executive branch (project '25) that will almost surely lead into fascism, which will then in turn fuck the rest of the world even worse.

I personally disagree, mainly because the interactions have much more depth than the same 30 unfunny comments that people make on reddit ex: this. Don’t get me wrong it happens here as well, just way less. I also see people back claims up with evidence here way more, it’s not always valid evidence but at least an attempt is made more.

The thing I like the best is the lack of self righteousness (ironic I’m making this comment on this post haha) that reddit has, that was my personal biggest complaint there. Like on reddit if there is an animal in a video in any way shape or form you can almost always find someone screeching about animal abuse, even when it is obviously not.

I of course have bias in favor of Lemmy and this is highly dependent on the community. I will admit Lemmy is super left leaning, which I like, but definitely supports your hive mind argument. Even though I lean left I think it would be healthier for Lemmy to have more of a presence from the right. Unfortunately with how the political landscape is today I think it won’t be very achievable but hopefully when we hit the post Trump era divisiveness will ease making coexistence here more achievable.