Yeah, I’ve just got the book “Enemy of All Mankind” which is about the period of time when the East India Co. was just getting going. Apparently that time intersects with three big shifts: the first international pirate manhunts, the start of the British Empire, and the creation of the corporation. It tells a crazy story and I absolutely loved it

Hasan Poker ain’t for everyone but he’s super knowledgeable and provides great context for ongoing issues. I mainly watch on YouTube so the clips are edited down and even more context (charts, sources, etc) are added.

Isn’t she more of a neo-liberal? What makes her con vs lib to you/y’all

Right… but she’s not gonna do that.

We have to force her and well we’re probably not gonna do that either, but that’s def more likely to work

Now there’d be a saint 🙏🏽

I salute you good sir! That’s plenty of space to squeeze past if necessary 😁 Just maintain a constant speed and you’re a hero

Why are your bars unequally divided?

It doesn’t make sense for chocolate bars to be divided into equal-sized chunks when there is so much inequality in the chocolate industry! The unequally-sized chunks of our 180g bars are a palatable way of reminding Choco Fans and Serious Friends that the profits in the chocolate industry are unequally divided.

And in case you haven’t noticed, the bottom of our bars depicts the West African coastline. The chunks just above it represent the Gulf of Guinea. From left to right, you have Côte d’Ivoire, Ghana, Togo and Benin (terribly politically incorrect, we know, but we had to combine them to create enough space for a hazelnut), Nigeria and part of Cameroon.

That’s awesome!

What the hell I need to learn to shoot for?

F that! I’m following my dreams

I just read it as supporting third parties. I thought you were going to mention what happens if a third party were to get more votes but not a majority. I actually don’t know. Would there still be a runoff between Dem and Rep or would the third party actually win it? I’d assume theres some rule that the third party has to win a majority or some bs

There’s a link under the post linking to info on the Sri Lanka election.

All good! It’s easy to miss

I recently learned some people never learned phonics. They were taught to just learn words based on how they look or something. Isn’t that kinda fuckin crazy?

Interesting. I thought that was just in movies. lol

Ok, yeah I figured the same thing

That seems kinda fucked up. Why would you do something like that?

I mean, I at least get fucking with people for money. Doing it for fun, not so much

Also, anyone know what they meant with this line?

I still loved my life so I didn’t want to use the Google custom search API.

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I mean, sure but Dems only really have a chance because Republicans continue to run the shuttiest candidates imaginable. That is absolutely true

Like, Obama won partly because McCain chose to run with Palin. It’s not the only reason he won, but it’s silly to think it wasn’t a major factor - especially considering everything we know about white American voters, that’s been made just as clear as it ever could be. I bet it was a tough decision for some/many Americans

I’ve always wished I could feel like the choice in a general election was a hard decision, but alas I’m working class and brown (and believe in science)

Do those goalposts have little feet on them?

“Democrats wouldn’t do this”

Democrats do this

“No, not like that”

Look, I said it in a dumb meme format so you know it’s true

(I appreciate you for posting here, just making fun of you 😊)

Dude, I didn’t say most of what you’re assuming I said. It’s weird what you’re doing. We’re not convincing each other of anything. The idea is to try and understand each other. I’m not going to engage with the original convo anymore because it’s not fruitful. Now, I’m more interested in the poor/lack of communication going on.

I mean, you wrote a whole lot in response to my saying “you’re not understanding me” with a defensive rant about how you are actually understanding me, I just can’t tell or am lying to you. I’ll say it once more. You’re not understanding me or what I’m trying to convey. I’ll accept my part in failing to communicate but it takes two… to u know not assume an entire thesis about what the other is sayinf

I personally would never criticize people doing what you’re doing (not voting/voting third party). I disagree with it, but do your thing. I tend to criticize the Dems so it’s wild you think I was saying Biden shouldn’t drop out. You’re saying legit silly things and it only makes sense to you and maybe people that already agree with you. I mean, you didn’t even answer the one question I asked, about what happens after the election, and you now you’ve jumped to thinking I’m against everything you stand for or something. That’s wild bro!

This is what frustrates me most. I disagreed with one thing you said, and you went nuclear like I’m basically your number one enemy. It’s like you’d prefer to be all alone and/or have less allies.

I honestly care a bit less about politics since realizing most of us can’t even have a very basic, low-stakes conversation about what each person thinks. I mean, if we don’t truly understand what the other is saying what’s the point?

Fair enough. We’re talking past each other at this point and I don’t really feel like repeating myself.

I disagree with the movement’s strategy, and lack thereof, and I disagree with your entire first paragraph. There is absolutely a lot to lose and it’s beyond frustrating and disrespectful for someone like you to say there isn’t. I’d implore you to think about even just one negative outcome that could occur because of your movement’s lack of consideration for their fellow citizens.

That said, I’d bet decent money you’re not a Muslim-American, that could be banned from visiting their family in a foreign country, or a Mexican-American that might be at risk of being deported/their family being deported, etc. My guess is you’ll be just fine no matter what happens and you don’t really care about the people that could suffer most due to your reactionary political goals.

Sorry, that didn’t answer my main question at all.

I understand what the movements goals are. I’m not interested in discussing the strategy.

My thinking goes like this, say the movement is a major success. And she tries to call your bluff (again lack of a better phrase here) and the movement true to its word and values succeed in being the deciding vote, let’s say. What are the possible results? There’s likely more than two but the obvious groups are either she loses or she wins. My question is then what?

She either won without the movement kinda giving them a political w and proving their power all while demoralizing folks that get invested. Or, she loses and the movement is blamed and scapegoated as the sole reason she lost and whole lot else.

I’m wondering about what folks in this movement think will happen after the election. Are we ready for the worst-caae scenario?

I’ll be honest and say I don’t understand her reasoning and it baffles me

But regardless, so she didn’t do that. Balls back in our court. Help me understand. What’s the next play? I see people saying they won’t vote for her. I and most people here can totally respect that, but it clearly seems naive and shortsighted to a lot of others at best (no disrespect to the movement), and a legit threat to all the things we’re supposedly aligned on, at worst

The movement seems to be messaging, “do the right thing on this issue or else we won’t vote for you.” But, she’s basically “calling the bluff”. She thinks it’s all smoke or insignificant. Well, will people actually stay home? If not, what are they doing but looking weak and hypocritical? If yes, then what are they planning on doing next if she loses?

I think we have to at least agree that these issues/actions divide us. And that means it weakens us. That means many of us are willingly weakening the movements they claim to support, or allowing our movements to be weakened. There are many ongoing movements and instead of building bridges we’re actively silo’ing ourselves and engaging in antagonist behavior towards each other. Let me know if that’s an unfair characterization - of course, I have the recent division with black folks in mind.

To me, this is the part I struggle with the most, the seemingly sanctimonious disregard for meaningful, tangible change over support for say, real progressive legislation that gives power back to the people instead of corporations and the rich (but I see how this is my number one issue and it clearly isnt for others).

All that said, you certainly won’t ever catch me shouting down genocide protesters or making fun of them. I think it’s noble as fuck. And that shit was one of the tackiest thing I’ve ever seen liberal voters do

Sorry, that got long 😁 this is all so frustrating