US deep south. The only sorting of trash I see in the hospital is sharps vs non-sharps. Outside the hospital, sorting is vitually nonexistent… there’s no recycling here, everything just goes in a landfill. It’s fucking stupid, but this is what we get for putting Nazis in charge of everything.

No idea how they dispose of it. I’ve asked my immediate management chain if I can take damaged/pitted instruments that need to be replaced to donate to the local colleges - Anatomy & Physiology classes all have a lab component to dissect something, and the school I went to had instruments that were absolute garbage.

The answer was no… We just put instruments that need to be replaced in a red bin with other sharps like needles, and the bins are shipped off somewhere, probably to be incinerated.

Bigger stuff like equipment, we send to the biomedical engineering department for outprocessing. From there, no idea. Probably land fill.

I wouldn’t dumpster dive at a hospital though. It’ll be a sea of ruptured catheter bags, linens saturated with poop, and just all manner of pathogens. And probably sharps - that stuff is supposed to go in sealed red bins, but all it takes is one lazy employee and you’ve got yourself an HIV+ needle stick.

I work in an operating room, and have been around long enough to see multiple pieces of perfectly good equipment get replaced just because it hit the manufacturer’s end-of-life date.

I’m talking things like a several-hundred-thousand dollar microscope for microsurgery.

Basically that date means if the microscope fucks up somehow, the vendor takes zero liability, and any legal expenses fall onto the hospital… so we trash it and buy another one. Rinse and repeat after another few years.

That end-of-life date is always crazy early, and is like that 100% because the manufacturer knows hospitals would rather just treat a quarter million dollar microscope as disposable than accept liability for an equipment fault.

The waste is unreal.

I wasn’t aware that they were distinct.

If I sell you a 2025 Ferrari then give you a 2011 Honda Civic, I broke the law and you got scammed.

Even if I take the unexpected step of sending you a civic-to-Ferrari conversion kit after the fact that makes the car I delivered somewhat comparable to the one I advertised, that doesn’t excuse the initial deception.

What they did was deliberate and dishonest - it’s awesome that they’ve taken (a shit ton of) steps since to make it right, but it’ll never be right.

Holding them accountable is not psychotic.

I wanted so badly to believe… so I did… cuz I’m a dumbass.

Idk who decides what in an indie studio, but whatever the job title, I’m talking about those involved in deceiving their customers… and there was a lot of that with NMS.

I was one of the fucking idiots that preordered No Man’s Sky. The devs have done a lot to make up for it, so I don’t really regret it anymore as it’s a decent game now, but at release it was so drastically bare-bones compared to what they advertised that if the legal system actually gave a shit about consumer protection, the staff of Hello Games would have served jail time.

But Sean was a charismatic little con artist, and he cut right past my defense. bUt ThiS gUy’S diFfeReNt!! Bruh I fuckin knew better than that!

Whoa hold up a sec…

…that’s better.

Sup, ICE. You’ve done such a good job emulating your rolemodel from the 1930s/40s with the mustache, I think you’ve all earned a fast-track in that career!! Just skip right to the end and go ahead and feed yourself that bullet! Remember not to aim perpendicular to your throat - that’ll just punch a potentially nonfatal hole: instead aim it up toward your brain!

You are a traitor not just to your country, but to all of humanity: your legacy will only ever be that of a villainous cautionary tale.

Best of luck with the go kill yourself! 💖

Never bothered with putting a tree up, but I’ve always kinda wanted to steal this idea:

Another stocking.

Ad hominem

Flagrantly false. Gaza has been leveled since Biden left. Not leveled vs leveled =/= just as bad.

pre-loaded accusations

They’re called logical fallacies. The one you just used is called a false dilemma. If you don’t like me drawing attention to them, I’d recommend refraining from using them.

Whether it would have been a “lesser” genocide is unfalsifiable. We’ll never really know. But I don’t have the faith in it that you have. I’m not sure what a more competent genocidal administration would have done.

Correct. But I’m confident the Harris administration wouldn’t have taking the swan-dive that Trump’s did. Same with all the other evils he’s committed outside the scope of genocide: bad under Harris, worse under Trump. Given what we know about the two, that assumption seems pretty reasonable. If you disagree, well like you said, that comes to which candidate we have less faith in. For me, Trump is the obvious rock-bottom worst outcome, but I can’t compare to an administration that never happened, so speculate as you will.

Consider what many US Palestinians did: threaten to withhold their votes if Harris didn’t say there was at least some daylight between herself and Biden regarding Gazans. And she wouldn’t even do that much.

But that’s how you use the vote, if you use it at all. You use it as leverage. If the Democrats know you’ll “vote Blue no matter who” or “vote Blue no matter what,” then they’ll ignore you altogether, because you’re already in their pocket. You’ve made yourself irrelevant.

Half correct. Withholding votes won’t get their attention - we’ve seen that play out again and again. Democrats would rather lose than change. If you want their attention and real change, you’ll need to do things other than vote.

It’s extremely telling that even you “lesser evil” BlueMAGA types can’t being yourselves to actually be honest about what you supported

You’re projecting. Y’all need to get that under control.

bullshit white washed version of the Democrats that wasn’t entirely all in on genocide.

Where did I say that? They just don’t have the same affinity for it as Republicans, so between the two, blue team is the wildly obvious choice if you want to minimize the suffering.

Clearly even you know the lesser evil position as it actually exists is indefensible.

Correct. The lesser evil is still evil. But contrasted against a greater evil and locked into a dichotomy, the lesser gets my vote despite being indefensible.

If you had me tied up and held a loaded gun to my head and offered the choice of either pulling the trigger or using it to pistol-whip me, your actions would be indefensible either way, but one stands out as significantly worse than the other, so I’ll choose the pistol-whip. I’ll also be doing other things like trying to fidget my way out of the ties, but I can do that in addition to choosing the lesser evil of a shitty dichotomy.

No I’m with you there - but it’s hard to discuss that stuff without getting banned; and you can do that stuff while still casting a vote every now and then. I’ve stirred up a lot of drama here by encouraging the use of that tool - this thread is stuffed with mouth-foaming Trump progandists, so proceed with caution. And grab some popcorn - it’s a shitshow, but it’s a show!

Mate, I was one of the people saying Democrats would lose if they didn’t change tact. But I still advocated against Trump. The Democrats handed the election to him on a silver platter. Fucking twice. But I still advocated against Trump.

No, you were just a genocide denier when it was your team doing it. It took Trump winning for you to actually admit the extent of the genocide.

Also incorrect. I bit my tongue during the election (did I mention the bit about advocating against Trump?) but was and remain opposed to genocide regardless of who’s in power.

Correct. That’s what I’m bitching about.