Re-hypothecation … leading to a situation where multiple claims exist on the same Bitcoin holdings.

effectivily dilluting the as-if supply with derivatives: leveraged gains for banks.

They are selling non-existant stuff (like with the big XMR price manipulation) – we’d need a mechanism of price discovery which distinguishes between real and paper. Monero on exchanges has the same problem. Weren’t we supposed to be delisted from this scam?

that is too bad.

What do I do with them

Use Home -> Add friend to add IDs. Seems you have done this already with the monerohub ID. You need more friends. Hang in while your node is syncing with the network in the background. Forum “Monero Town” is most active.

https://github.com/RetroShare/retroshare-mobile

:sad:

I am not in the business of rescuing the world. I you wanna do that, fine.

first you are wrong. and second, mobile users who dont read, dont research and post subito are of little help. Excluding smartphone slaves would be a big plus. Unfortunately there is an app for those.

We are now open. You’ll have to invest time to learn how it works. It is NOT another web app. And it looks ugly. You’ll have no fun and your ego will not be boosted.

BUT IT CANNOT BE TAKEN DOWN.

to get started with RetroShare d/l v 0.6.7 [emphasis: that is VERSION 0.6.7] [retroshare.cc/downloads][Appimage], start a Tor hidden node (when creating your ID use pull down menu: “Hidden node (over Tor)”) and add all the above IDs as friends: [friend requests may be pending 1-2 days]

If friend is online it takes +10 min until your node is integrated into the p2p net. Integration greatly improves with further uptime and by adding more friends. Be patient and hang in.

Here is a list of places to visit (after waiting a long time these can be found by typing “Monero” in the search bar):

• Monero Resources on RetroShare [Channel]

• Monero [Board]

• Monero Town [Board]

• Monero Mining [Board]

• Monero Memes [Board]

• Monero Town [Forum]

• Monero Memes [Channel]

• Monero Market [Channel]

• MoneroTown [Chat]

• Haveno [Chat]

• Retroshare [Chat]

You are free to create your own channels. There is no hierarchy. Trolls loose trust and therefore connections and can be banned/deleted on an individual level. Private groups/chats/channels/circles/nodes can be created.

Have Fun!

clean shutdown

RS needs to save sql databases on shutdown. Usually takes ~20s. RS posts to the console when complete. If killed by power-off db may be corrupted. Backup: ~/.retroshare contains all data (50-120MB)

The real issue is graph anal in social networks: You don’t want to store all graph info all the time on all nodes. I want only my friends to know who i am. That’s privacy. Technically RS can do that – but you’ll miss out on the fun factor.

problems:

• inherits full graph anal from BTC: but instead of money your complete private life is profiled

• dev tax of 5% (concealed in docs): this is a scam if the token rises in value

Requirements for running a full node:

• Your computer has at least 50 GB empty space on your SSD

• Your computer has at least 2 GB free RAM

• Your internet speed is at least 10 Mb/sec

Sounds reasonable. Anybody here to do this ?

The control is statistical in nature. It is predictable that most ppl wont move to “selfhost or simply choose a different server”. Privacy of metadata (sooner or later users can be identified) is lost anyway. To prevent users from “selfhost or simply choose a different server” marketing is used addressing, again, a vulnerable part of population plus technical hurdles (design choice). A small number of ppl (you?) will always escape control and manipulation.

If ppl choose the statistically centralized type of federated platform they should at least be aware of the trade-offs. Convenience vs. privacy/blacklisting. If there are only a handfull servers all controlled by the same companies its not even federated, its a marketing gag.

As you “have no time to look deeper into this” we will end the discussion here.

simplex TOS:

We reserve the right to remove such links from the preset servers and disrupt the conversations that send illegal content via our servers, whether they were reported by the users or discovered by our team.

Poberezkin is DOA. Dont’t try to simplify your privacy by using federated platforms. You will be pawned.

The short answer is: NOT YOUR NODE, NOT YOUR RULES

“federated” has been used lately to mindfuck ppl into believing they are free and decentralized. A federated government is not a democracy and a federated protocol doesn’t set u free. It’s the old server-client paradigm.

both sides need to confirm Add Friend -> paste ID , works with version 0.6.7

(new identities can be created later)

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ok this works — we are connected. you created a forum: monero town … I can see it.

you invited me to a chatroom;

desktop seems to work flawlessly with tor hidden service setup option.

Maybe some android testing needed.

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will be gone tomorrow. tor hidden service.

yep. “hidden node (over tor)” lets you connect directly. I can see your user name is “gekut” and your onion address is hygzlzl2hxznxfxgzl3sghovnub5pjf555op72evqagihszkhtnz2bad.onion

It tells me you are offline atm.

RS is the most censorship resistant p2p net out there. You can create true friend2friend networks and thats end of story for the rats.

last time I checked no hardcoded seednodes nor tor hidden services avail.

So you are the only participant in the whole p2p network atm and people wont know your IP and cant “find” you. Later on with +100 nodes a DHT will do the trick.

It is possible to bootstrap a p2p network from scratch (without mining incentives)… and I hope people get interested before the next ddos. I used retro a lot yrs ago.

This chinese paper boils down to the common psychopathic wet dream: an adversary with unlimited resources will control every aspect of life in a totalitarian fashion. It’s a fluff: collecting IPs does not “de-anon” any monero tx.

Don’t be intimidated, this has never materialzed in the last 10000 yrs. In fact, China has legalized (illegal) mining (metal) coins after its paper currency collapsed (in the 15th century). It can happen again.

They don’t like us — and we don’t like them. This aggression against humanity will not stand.