Coming up to 20 years, 17 years married.

How dare you use facts to challenge our beliefs!!

First thing I do to a tv is flick it into a colour graded mode and flick all motion smoothing off.

Agree that it’s HDR, not actually resolution that makes that much difference.

And you don’t think this happens in China?

How much have you travelled, lived and worked in China? How far outside the tier 1 cities have you gotten?

If you think every criticism of China is just liberal talking points, I assume the answers to those questions are all “not very much”.

I agree that it would make more sense if they called it a “household” plan. That’s clearly what it is.

By Darwin you see a lot. I was merely stating that I think YouTube premium is worth the price I pay for it.

Is there no product you are satisfied with? Your life must be pretty bleak.

Is recommending a product that you’re satisfied with “shilling”?

Is there a product in this world that you think is worth the price? Does that make you a shill?

You mean removing sponsor led segments inside a video? Sort of. The jump ahead feature, which I think is a premium feature, allows you to jump in the video based on where everywhere else is jumping in the video. So when a sponsored segment starts and you skip forward 30s (double tap on mobile, ‘k’ on PC) you are offered to jump ahead. You click that and you get to the end of the sponsored segment.

YouTube steals other people’s work?

I tend to watch content creators who willingly put their content on YouTube. Am I missing something here…?

I know. I thought we were upvoting respectful debate, not having a popularity contest. But apparently not…

It’s a product. You can buy it or not. If you don’t think it’s worth it, stay away, or stay on the free tier. You’re acting as if you’ve got some kind of right to use a service that’s provided by a commercial entity.

It’s too expensive agreed. However YouTube has a lot of discounted memberships through other services. I wouldn’t pay full price for it, but through my mobile phone company I get more than 50% off and that’s a bloody great deal.

Same here. I’ve cancelled Netflix, never got Disney plus, never use prime (though I think I have access to something through prime shipping).

YouTube however; I watch this every single day, use it for learning, relaxation, documentaries etc.

It’s a fantastic platform and well worth the subscription AFAICS.

If you pay, the platform remains great. I get a discounted YouTube premium membership through my mobile phone company. I think YouTube is great, I never see ads, lots of features.

Just to offer an alternative view.

You have to trust someone.

And I can’t speak for all the implementations around the world. But I can speak for the Danish one. Or at least what the design is intended to be right now.

The Danish verification tokens are single use. Yes they get checked against a database, centrally, but that database doesn’t hold any information about who the token was issued to, just whether it’s a valid token that hasn’t been used before.

So your digital wallet holds a set of single use tokens. You have to log in using MitID (central government system for proving your identify online), then your wallet is issued age proofing tokens which you then hand over to the website to prove your age.

So there are a million ways that COULD be abused, just like there are a million ways your bank could abuse the information it holds about you. In both cases, laws require that neither abuse their privilege.

You have to trust someone. Or live a hermit.

In the EU the legal framework requires a ZKP implantation. Laws would be broken if traceability was introduced.

Sort of the same system they’re building in Denmark.

You will log into MitID (myID), authenticate with the MitID app, then be issued a bunch of ZKP tokens which you’ll burn off against age verification services. No trace, fully authenticated, fully trusted, damn near impossible to fool.

Ok. I get the concept that pornography doesn’t harm children. We can debate that.

But by that reckoning should we also allow children to buy guns online and have them delivered at home? Is there nothing we want to restrict online, on account that whoever is buying it might be too young?