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    Not really. Only recently have they started sending modern long range missiles and semi modern fighter jets to Ukraine. Those were available since the start.

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      Things like missiles and fighter jets aren’t instrumental in this conflict. If they were, then Russia would’ve won a long time ago because they’ve always had a massive superiority in both. This is primarily a war of attrition with 80% of casualties coming from artillery battles. The problem the west has is that it’s simply not capable of producing things like artillery shells at the rate they’re consumed.

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        True but that is because both sides are mostly doing the field battle thing like they did in the 1700 instead of trying to blow up all civilian infrastructure of the other party America style. Which Ukraine cannot do much because they would get nuked. And Russia so far has not done much either.

        The entire war there is just very weird. There is no way for Ukraine to win besides getting nukes or somehow destroying all Russian oil without getting nuked. And both are basically impossible.

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          It’s worth noting that Russia has largely dismantled Ukrainian power grid at this point. However, it very much looks like Russia is focusing on destroying the army itself first and foremost. I agree that it is absolutely illogical for the west to prolong the war at this point as it’s becoming clear that Russia has won, and that the economic blow back for the west is worse than it is for Russia. The west is falling for the sunk cost fallacy here.

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              Yup, it’s absolutely clear looking at the completely nonsensical fearmongering “Putin will conquer entire Europe” which was up day one of the war.

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              I think it’s becoming quite clear that destruction of Europe’s economy was an objective of the war. The US was becoming increasingly worried about Europe’s integration with the east. Europe was benefiting from Russian energy and Chinese manufacturing, while Russia and China provided large markets for Europeans goods. If things kept going the way they were then the US would eventually lose political grip over Europe. Now Europe has become entirely dependent on the US, and as its economy unravels it will become a new cheap labor market going forward.

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                I do not believe much in long term plans. It feels like America is simply going through the motions and people adapt as they go along.

                A great example was Isreal trying to expell all Palestinians into Egypt but that did not work out and now Israel is stuck in genocide limbo.

                But Syria they saw Assad fall and quickly adapted to steal a lot of land. Likely not planned but simply opportunistic. Everyone adjusts their plans along the way and the end result is what it becomes of it.

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                  I don’t think this is a really sophisticated plan to be honest. The US openly expressed displeasure about Nord Stream, and Biden openly said he’d put and end to it which he did. Starting a war with Russia and using it to whip up bloc discipline in the west is really just dusting off the Cold War narrative. It’s just a return to the status quo.

                  Things in West Asia are indeed a lot more dynamic, and I do think there’s a lot of opportunism going on right now. That said, it does seem like Turkey and Israel planned and coordinated their attack on Syria. Notice how their proxies aren’t fighting each other, and they’re both grabbing territory without stepping on each other’s toes.