exactly, free speech fundamentalism just allows freedom to abuse anyone and lie about anything

what’s happening in germany is the same playbook as in the US. use wedge issues like immigration, palestine and economic hardship to split the left and support the far right in social media spam

at least in germany you can vote constructively for a variety of parties that can create a government that effectively excludes the far right

Free speech gave the USA Trump.

Not at all. The things that Trump says are acceptable to the ruling class of America. Even without free speech (which the US doesn’t actually have), Trump would never be the victim of censorship laws.

They’ve went further than that & now it is criticism of Israel as well. Moreso, despite those things representing a dark history, if someone cosplays as a Nazi or thinks Hitler didn’t murder 6 million, or whatever number they are at now, as long as they aren’t there being violent (which is already criminal) then arresting them because of thought crimes is fascist behavior. The censorship as well has only emboldened those ideas. When you lock people up for speaking about something then those ideas grow like cancer. People will believe they are legitimate ideas that the government is covering up. Don’t believe me or whatever, but don’t be surprised when you create a monster.

I believe he’s talking about Germany not allowing critique on war crimes and mass murder if perpetrated by Israel.

No censorship of speech has always been liberal. /s Also its kidna funny how eastern european countries now have stronger foundations of liberal democracy than germany, since statements like “from the river to the sea” are not criminalized as antisemitic.

I would say that the problem is a lot older, more fundamental and anchored on two issues:

• Somebody else got rid of the Nazis, not the German people, and all the subsequent learning from Nazism was the result of outside pressures and based on an outside way of thinking, rather than being the result of self-discovery and self-improvement.
• The “lessons” learned were structured in the way of thinking of the 1950s which was still very much normalized Racism, so instead of the lesson being the modern Humanist “This should never be allowed to happen to anybody”, it was instead the highly Race-specific formulation of “We (Germans) should never do this to Jews again”.

The result is that the mental architecture of seeing people as members or races and hence assumed to have a certain nature based purelly on their race (good, bad, trustworthy, untrustworthy, victims, aggressors, oppressors, oppressed and so on), that formed the foundation upon which Nazism was built, was never abandoned and instead only the list of “good” and “bad” races changed, which in the domain of Prejudice and Racism was but a tiny step away from Nazism.

If in the mind of most of a society, people’s worth and deserving of special treatment is determined by their race to such a point that, as we saw with the “unwavering support of the Jewish Nation” during them committing a Genocide, even extreme negative behaviour of people is acceptable if they are members of a race deemed “good”, then all the mental pathways to think and act exactly like that towards “our race” - the mindset of AfD - are in place and well travelled.

Nativist Racism in Germany is the harvest of a field well plowed and fertilized with Racist and Prejudiced practices (described as “positive” to make them sound like a good thing) for the last 6 or 7 decades. Worse, that well kept field was the very same were Nazism blossomed over a century ago.