of course, but he pretends to be very skilled at this game and has hired people to fake it for him….
now, he’s so narcissistic that he still thought he could livestream himself playing, and people would see how good he is… then he died to a tutorial boss….
the point is he’s a fraud at every level, and this is some juicy undeniable proof.
it’s hard to really prove he’s a fraud at spacex and tesla and pretending to be some super genius, but proving he’s even a fraud at stupid video games proves he’s probably a fraud in everything else.
if he actually had any real skill at anything, he wouldn’t need to fake being a good gamer.
i suck at video games all the time, and i enjoy it… but i never pretend like im the best gamer ever.
btw, he also called chess too simple…
If Dunning-Kruger could be crystallized into a single sentence. The fucking moron probably memorized how each piece is allowed to move and thought that was all there was to it.
I wanna see Elon play a grandmaster and get absolutely memed on. The gulf between the average person and a top tier chess player is probably 10x greater than the gulf between the average person and a top tier gamer, in any video game. Chess just has such a large player base and literally centuries of tactical/strategic development, few games can even claim to have fostered the level of expertise required to be a top player.
Side note: chess skull is often correlated with intelligence. There might be something there, but at the top levels it’s really just about having played thousands and thousands of games and recognizing patterns between is how often you’ve played. Perhaps some genetal intelligence translates well to chess, but little chess skill translates to general intelligence.
To quote Paul Morphy, who was a worldwide chess champion at 21 years old but retired at 22: “The ability to play chess is the sign of a gentleman. The ability to play chess well is the sign of a wasted life.”
AoE2 is one of a small number of video games I can entertain an argument about building an immense skill gulf between average and top tier players, like chess. But the size of that gulf is just incomparable.
There are approximately as many titled chess masters* as there are total monthly AoE2 players. And truly, the difference between a Candidate Master and a Grand Master is probably as big as the difference between a candidate master and an average player. Grand Masters are just so insanely skilled, they can pull some crazy flexes by forcing their opponents’ moves due to traps they set tens of moves ago.
I watched a GM streamer playing against his subs, with the rule “no matter how bad you’re losing, you can’t forfeit” so that he could show of these stunts. He was doing stuff like promoting every single pawn to a queen (which gets tricky because when you have 8 queens you have to try to not accidentally checkmate your opponent until you get the 9th). Taking only the pawns from his opponent, and then forcing all of the pieces back to their starting square before checkmate. Forcing an “underpromotion mate” (where you win by turning a pawn into a knight rather than a queen, pretty rare circumstance). Drawing basic pixel art with the pieces on the board at checkmate. And these weren’t all against noob players, some of them were quite skilled or even semi-pro, but to someone at the top tier of chess there is almost no difference between semi pro and beginner.
Elon sounds like this phase I went through where I believed I was the smartest person alive, and I would often make grandiose and contrarian statements to keep up the illusion, because being considered the smartest was more important than the actual possession of knowledge or wisdom. Simply because feeding my ego felt good, but I realized that feeding my ego means not feeding my true self which is NOT the ego, and if I fed myself I could actually became intelligent and enjoy maybe not feel the high of the role… but actually being intelligent is more valuable.
If I recall correctly I was 15 at the time this started and 17-19 when I stopped doing it because I realized it made me an assclown.
He’s so smart he thinks 20 moves ahead of his opponent 5 opponents from now before this opponent even knows they are scheduled to play. Thus he’s already won and there is no point scheduling the chess match.
it’s hard to really prove he’s a fraud at spacex and tesla and pretending to be some super genius
I mean, even this isn’t very hard. My relative used to work at SpaceX, and it’s an open secret that the company has a team of people dedicated to keeping Elon away from the engineers. Like as soon as he steps out of his office, there are multiple people whose sole job is to push paperwork and “problems” (read: “literally just basic decisions that anyone in middle management could make”) in front of him to keep him completely distracted with inane and inconsequential things, while also making him feel like a big important decision maker.
All so he doesn’t have time to wander down towards the engineers. Because if he does get to the engineers, he’ll inevitably try to one-up them with some “why are we doing it this way that I’m too dumb to understand? I don’t like that I can’t understand it. We should do it this dumb way instead” decree. And now the entire company is going to grind to a halt until the engineers can redesign the entire system to fit his new dumb design.
Like he desperately wants to fit in with the engineers, but the only way he knows how is to try and flex his (nonexistent) technical expertise. So the company has hired people specifically to prevent that scenario from ever happening.
while i believe all of this, it’s not super easy to prove.
a livestream fail is undeniable, complete proof that he’s a fraud in video games….
and it does lend credence to the idea that he’s a fraud in everything else.
of course, but he pretends to be very skilled at this game and has hired people to fake it for him….
now, he’s so narcissistic that he still thought he could livestream himself playing, and people would see how good he is… then he died to a tutorial boss….
the point is he’s a fraud at every level, and this is some juicy undeniable proof.
it’s hard to really prove he’s a fraud at spacex and tesla and pretending to be some super genius, but proving he’s even a fraud at stupid video games proves he’s probably a fraud in everything else.
if he actually had any real skill at anything, he wouldn’t need to fake being a good gamer.
i suck at video games all the time, and i enjoy it… but i never pretend like im the best gamer ever.
btw, he also called chess too simple…
If Dunning-Kruger could be crystallized into a single sentence. The fucking moron probably memorized how each piece is allowed to move and thought that was all there was to it.
I wanna see Elon play a grandmaster and get absolutely memed on. The gulf between the average person and a top tier chess player is probably 10x greater than the gulf between the average person and a top tier gamer, in any video game. Chess just has such a large player base and literally centuries of tactical/strategic development, few games can even claim to have fostered the level of expertise required to be a top player.
Side note: chess skull is often correlated with intelligence. There might be something there, but at the top levels it’s really just about having played thousands and thousands of games and recognizing patterns between is how often you’ve played. Perhaps some genetal intelligence translates well to chess, but little chess skill translates to general intelligence.
To quote Paul Morphy, who was a worldwide chess champion at 21 years old but retired at 22: “The ability to play chess is the sign of a gentleman. The ability to play chess well is the sign of a wasted life.”
How couod a 22 year know what signals a wasted life?
I think that quote was from later in his life.
Not to be a contrarian but I submit Age of Empires II
AoE2 is one of a small number of video games I can entertain an argument about building an immense skill gulf between average and top tier players, like chess. But the size of that gulf is just incomparable.
There are approximately as many titled chess masters* as there are total monthly AoE2 players. And truly, the difference between a Candidate Master and a Grand Master is probably as big as the difference between a candidate master and an average player. Grand Masters are just so insanely skilled, they can pull some crazy flexes by forcing their opponents’ moves due to traps they set tens of moves ago.
I watched a GM streamer playing against his subs, with the rule “no matter how bad you’re losing, you can’t forfeit” so that he could show of these stunts. He was doing stuff like promoting every single pawn to a queen (which gets tricky because when you have 8 queens you have to try to not accidentally checkmate your opponent until you get the 9th). Taking only the pawns from his opponent, and then forcing all of the pieces back to their starting square before checkmate. Forcing an “underpromotion mate” (where you win by turning a pawn into a knight rather than a queen, pretty rare circumstance). Drawing basic pixel art with the pieces on the board at checkmate. And these weren’t all against noob players, some of them were quite skilled or even semi-pro, but to someone at the top tier of chess there is almost no difference between semi pro and beginner.
GMs are crazy good.
*All master titles combined, not just GM.
Elon sounds like this phase I went through where I believed I was the smartest person alive, and I would often make grandiose and contrarian statements to keep up the illusion, because being considered the smartest was more important than the actual possession of knowledge or wisdom. Simply because feeding my ego felt good, but I realized that feeding my ego means not feeding my true self which is NOT the ego, and if I fed myself I could actually became intelligent and enjoy maybe not feel the high of the role… but actually being intelligent is more valuable.
If I recall correctly I was 15 at the time this started and 17-19 when I stopped doing it because I realized it made me an assclown.
So uhhh How old is Elon?
He’s so smart he thinks 20 moves ahead of his opponent 5 opponents from now before this opponent even knows they are scheduled to play. Thus he’s already won and there is no point scheduling the chess match.
Also 1-0-0 in MMA
I mean, even this isn’t very hard. My relative used to work at SpaceX, and it’s an open secret that the company has a team of people dedicated to keeping Elon away from the engineers. Like as soon as he steps out of his office, there are multiple people whose sole job is to push paperwork and “problems” (read: “literally just basic decisions that anyone in middle management could make”) in front of him to keep him completely distracted with inane and inconsequential things, while also making him feel like a big important decision maker.
All so he doesn’t have time to wander down towards the engineers. Because if he does get to the engineers, he’ll inevitably try to one-up them with some “why are we doing it this way that I’m too dumb to understand? I don’t like that I can’t understand it. We should do it this dumb way instead” decree. And now the entire company is going to grind to a halt until the engineers can redesign the entire system to fit his new dumb design.
Like he desperately wants to fit in with the engineers, but the only way he knows how is to try and flex his (nonexistent) technical expertise. So the company has hired people specifically to prevent that scenario from ever happening.
while i believe all of this, it’s not super easy to prove.
a livestream fail is undeniable, complete proof that he’s a fraud in video games….
and it does lend credence to the idea that he’s a fraud in everything else.
Like making them make the tip of the rocket pointy because he saw it in the movie the dictator.
he’s like xkcd.com/1112