I don’t think anyone is calling anyone stupid for calling for an end to the genocide. But what’s stupid is when people think that Trump will somehow stop the genocide.
You’d have to ask them. If your family or the families of people in your community were being slaughtered by the incumbent administration, you might discover you have a red line after all. Fortunately for you, you’ll probably never really know.
As so many Harris-voting lemmitors have instructed me, stopping the genocide is not on the effective ballot as-presented, so no, they are not assisting continuing what is absolutely a genocide. The goal is that they either pressure Harris to not be a ghoul, because they presume she cares about winning more than aiding genocide (this is most likely false) or, if Harris sticks to her guns and either loses or wins by such slim margins that it makes the Dem winning next election without stopping Israel much more hazardous, they (the Muslim/Arab voters) can extract concessions, because even electoral politics doesn’t end with one election cycle, and some strategies aimed at maximizing some long term result can introduce a risk or even a guarantee of short-term costs.
I don’t believe, like I think those voters do, that Dems would trade Israel slaughtering with impunity even for a guaranteed victory, but I think them demonstrating that unwillingness has its own value, since the DNC needs to be brought down. I don’t expect you to agree to this and am not terribly interested in persuading you, I’m just offering an explanation.
I’m confused how you believe that Israel’s rabid ethnic cleansing campaign is a liberal democrat policy, but please do actually answer the question. Do you think Trump will be better for Arab Americans?
Also dude, there is literally an Arab American Institute that encompasses a lot more than just Palestinians lmao. Virtue signal harder please.
I’m confused how you believe that Israel’s rabid ethnic cleansing campaign is a liberal democrat policy,
This is the form imperialism typically takes, an imperial “core” where things are relatively comfortable and humane and a “periphery” where things are extremely brutal. It’s more obvious when there’s a war the core has more direct involvement in, like Obama siccing the Air Force on Yemen in conjunction with the Saudis, but this too is a case of it.
The Biden administration is aiding and abetting this genocide financially, materielly, and politically. This is as much the bipartisan US empire’s genocide as it is Israel’s.
Other than the genocide of their friends and relatives? Increased anti-immigrant policies, failures to address concerns of marginalized communities, failures of the liberal Capitalist system at large, etc.
They aren’t voting for Trump either, most are going to Stein.
The knee jerk response from lefties is that any insult or criticism of people who are members of a minority is racist, regardless of if it has anything to do with race (or race adjacent).
I don’t think anyone is calling anyone stupid for calling for an end to the genocide. But what’s stupid is when people think that Trump will somehow stop the genocide.
Oh and btw… I was banned from world news. LOL.
Virtually no one thinks Trump will stop the genocide. You’re just strawmaning.
Then why not vote for the other people, who will possibly make it a slightly less bad genocide? What’s wrong with less bad?
You’d have to ask them. If your family or the families of people in your community were being slaughtered by the incumbent administration, you might discover you have a red line after all. Fortunately for you, you’ll probably never really know.
I’m at least not going to be making it worse.
No one thinks this
Meaning these people are consciously assisting continuing what they believe is a genocide abroad AND making things worse here too?
Or do they not understand FPTP voting?
As so many Harris-voting lemmitors have instructed me, stopping the genocide is not on the effective ballot as-presented, so no, they are not assisting continuing what is absolutely a genocide. The goal is that they either pressure Harris to not be a ghoul, because they presume she cares about winning more than aiding genocide (this is most likely false) or, if Harris sticks to her guns and either loses or wins by such slim margins that it makes the Dem winning next election without stopping Israel much more hazardous, they (the Muslim/Arab voters) can extract concessions, because even electoral politics doesn’t end with one election cycle, and some strategies aimed at maximizing some long term result can introduce a risk or even a guarantee of short-term costs.
I don’t believe, like I think those voters do, that Dems would trade Israel slaughtering with impunity even for a guaranteed victory, but I think them demonstrating that unwillingness has its own value, since the DNC needs to be brought down. I don’t expect you to agree to this and am not terribly interested in persuading you, I’m just offering an explanation.
There was a commenter calling Arab-American voters stupid for abandoning Harris.
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How are Arab-Americans being harmed by liberal democrat policies? Do you think Trump being elected will be better for Arab-Americans?
Their families are being genocided by liberal democrat policies. Some of them are even in Gaza right now, or their lifeless bodies are, anyway.
Also, dude, Arab is not the preferred nomenclature. Palestinian, please. Most are simply people who converted from Judaism to Christianity or Islam at some point, and some still practice Judaism to this day.
I’m confused how you believe that Israel’s rabid ethnic cleansing campaign is a liberal democrat policy, but please do actually answer the question. Do you think Trump will be better for Arab Americans?
Also dude, there is literally an Arab American Institute that encompasses a lot more than just Palestinians lmao. Virtue signal harder please.
https://www.aaiusa.org/about-arab-americans
This is the form imperialism typically takes, an imperial “core” where things are relatively comfortable and humane and a “periphery” where things are extremely brutal. It’s more obvious when there’s a war the core has more direct involvement in, like Obama siccing the Air Force on Yemen in conjunction with the Saudis, but this too is a case of it.
The Biden administration is aiding and abetting this genocide financially, materielly, and politically. This is as much the bipartisan US empire’s genocide as it is Israel’s.
I think you’re just trolling or hasbaraing.
Other than the genocide of their friends and relatives? Increased anti-immigrant policies, failures to address concerns of marginalized communities, failures of the liberal Capitalist system at large, etc.
They aren’t voting for Trump either, most are going to Stein.
A vote for Stein is a vote for Trump.
A vote for Harris is a vote for Trump.
Yeah… I’ve heard better Lowkeys.
Well that is stupid. People can be stupid from all corners of the globe.
The knee jerk response from lefties is that any insult or criticism of people who are members of a minority is racist, regardless of if it has anything to do with race (or race adjacent).
It’s a convenient label to slap onto anyone who criticizes the non-western world.
Agreed. To the point that they cheapen the word.