• davel@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    The unnamed U.S. lawmakers

    The Kyiv Independent (despite NATO Bias/Fact Check’s opinion) is not a reliable outlet, so I’d take this with a grain of salt. This might be an effort to shift blame away from local government. But that doesn’t really matter, what matters is that the net for the meat grinder will be cast wider.

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      This might be an effort to shift blame away from local government.

      Might be, but I’ve seen articles (not from ua government) about plans to do this (and US pressure on that matter) long before the government spoke about it, so might be true.

      But that doesn’t really matter, what matters is that the net for the meat grinder will be cast wider.

      Yep :(
      What will probably happen, is that kidnapping age will be reduced to something like 20-21, and it will be presented as a great success of Zelensky the Merciful.

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    So, Zelensky started with turning Ukraine into a mass prison on 24.02.2022.
    Then busification (kidnapping people on the streets and murdering them by sending them to the meat grinder) of men aged 27-60 started soon after.
    Then, in April 2024, Zelensky’s meat grinder was expanded to men aged 25-27.
    Now, Zelensky will probably start murdering men aged 18-25 as well (and not just “supported” by the west, not even “encouraged”, now it’s “pressured”).

    What line should Zelensky cross for you to admit he is genociding Ukrainians? Should he start kidnapping teenagers as well? Should he start kidnapping women? Or would it be ok as well?.. (btw both kidnapping teenagers and women already happened, it’s just that for now “recruitment officers” let them go after they discover their mistake)

    And remeber folks, “till the last Ukrainian” is propaganda spread by Russian bots and tankies, it has nothing in common with reality.

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        Zelensky didn’t choose to be invaded. Wtf are you on about

        Even assuming that this is true - I didn’t say that he did.
        What he did choose to do though - was turning country into a mass prison and kidnapping people on the streets and sending them into the meat ginder (so, murdering them).

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            Except Putin is actually doing those things. Ukraine has a draft, which is not great, but isn’t kidnapping people off the streets. That’s completely disingenuous at best.

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            Yeah, I guess you’re actually right about that, when you look at what Zelensky does to Ukrainians - it indeed sounds quite similar to the western propaganda about what Putin/Russia does…

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              Dont even bother with those people. They are not uninformed, they know what is happening and they lie on purpose

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                Dont even bother with those people.

                But what else can I do? :(
                It’s my family and friends that could be next. I should at least try to persuade people to stop that…