• davel@lemmy.mlEnglish
      133·
      2 months ago

      Cut them a little slack: vampires can’t see themselves in the mirror.

      Seriously though, I remember the Republican party having a come to Jesus moment (pun possibly intended) after their 2008 (or was it 2012) loss to Obama. They didn’t lash out, blaming this that and the other, deflecting blame; they introspected on their own missteps. This long Clintonian dynasty will never do that, and they need to be purged.

      Edit to add: And their Vote Blue No Matter Who constituency is so West Wing pilled that it doesn’t occur to them to take these people to account for their failures, because the Bartlet administration can do no wrong.

      • zaph@sh.itjust.works
        2·
        2 months ago

        They didn’t lash out, blaming this that and the other, deflecting blame

        And then they immediately nominated the candidate that has done that more than anyone.

    • Feydaikin@beehaw.org
      51·
      2 months ago

      I feel like that’s a more general human problem and not exclusive to people of any specific political orientation.

  • P03 Locke@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    1819·
    2 months ago

    No, you can blame the non-voters. The ones who thought it was great idea to get pissy about one issue and stay home. Or “both sides” their way into an idiotic stance.

    And in 2026, you can also blame the non-voters. The ones who elected Kamala president, but are too stupid to understand that voting is an annual process, and Kamala isn’t a fucking queen that can enact anything she wants without the support of a democratically-elected Congress.

    Vote twice a year, every year. Every. Fucking. Time. Why is that so hard to understand?

    EDIT: All of you people bitching about the war in Gaza should stop and think about what would happen to Gaza if Trump got elected. You have two choices, and staying at home just forces one of those two choices for you.

    • eldavi@lemmy.ml
      314·
      2 months ago

      the harris campaign courting white voters whose majority hasn’t voted democrat since 1964 while actively denigrating their most active supporters to do so but still expecting their vote anyways is the part you’re not understanding.

    • SovietyWoomy [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
      294·
      2 months ago

      Democrats have made it abundantly clear that they consider genocide to be a higher priority than bearing Trump. If that stance costs them enough votes to lose the election, the fault lies entirely with the democratic party.

    • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      273·
      2 months ago

      one issue

      Can you take a stand against genocide? No

      Can you stop funding Israel? No

      Can you stop sending arms to Israel? No

      Can you stop illegally occupying Palestine? No

      Can we put homeless people in unused homes? No

      Can you do disaster relief? No

      Can COVID tests be affordable? No

      Can the price of food go down? No

      Can there be a jobs guarantee? No

      Can the hiring process be regulated? No

      Can AI be regulated? No

      Can library budgets increase? No

      Can you stop torturing people at the boarder? No

      Can we get bail reform? No

      Can drugs be legal? No

      Can we have high speed rail? No

      Can we expand public transportation in general? No

      Can we break up big tech? No

      Can anything be done about the literacy rate? No

      Can billionaires be made to pay tax? No

      Can copyright be reformed? No

      Can I get healthcare? No

      Can you fix infrastructure? No

      Can you fight climate change? No

      Can you protect LGBT? No

      Can you keep abortion legal? No

      Can you do something about the supreme court? No

      Can you stop violence against immigrants? No

      Can you help struggling minorities? No

      Can you help struggling majority? No

      Can you increase labor protections? No

      Can you help unions? No

      Can you stop war? No

      Can you make city design better? No

      Can I ever afford a house? No

      Can you make student debt less ridiculous? No

      Can you stop creating conflict with China? No

      Can you keep a campaign promise? No

      Can you help with spiraling rent costs? No

      Can you help put the cost of living in line with salaries? No

      Can you stop exploiting the third world? No

      Any social safety nets? No

      Stop underfunding government programs before privatizing them? No

      Arts and athletics in schools? No

      Reduce violence in schools? No

      Defund the police? No

      originally posted by WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them] idk and idc how to tag users

        • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
          14·
          2 months ago

          Hey, thank you @robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net and Alaskaball! This is a list I slapped together in a couple minutes and is incredibly reductive. Something like “protect the LGBT” is certainly non-exhaustive and capable of being articulated much more cogently. In particular, if you broke down the dem’s failings for “social issues” like these you’d get to the heart of why people writ large are disillusioned. Others like defund the police might make a platform if you said that the money was going towards things that are awesome instead without sacrificing safety (on the contrary, long and short term ability to effect the root of suffering/crime). Finally, one might also organize the list so it’s not 2 streams of consciousness mushed together (articulating Palestine in 2024 and then “stop war” decidedly before things popped off on October 7th). The purpose was to illustrate the argument exactly as robot did, that there’s a long list of issues that tend to get memory holed. So when a blue MAGA’s eyes glaze over when you try to explain that genocide is the thing that makes Hitler so bad and THEN they wave away a list of other things dems aren’t doing then you really get a full picture of how little they desire to listen to you/help with effectual change.

          If anyone decides to append/edit the list don’t even credit me. I’m not but a poster. Just remember amerikkka isntrael

    • TheOubliette@lemmy.ml
      225·
      2 months ago

      No, you can blame the non-voters. The ones who thought it was great idea to get pissy about one issue and stay home.

      If there’s just one issue and you don’t even want to say what it is, aren’t you implying it’s a very important one? Maybe one you would feel bad downplaying if you named it?

      But yes if she loses, I do hope you blame those who refused to vote over genocide. And internalize the lesson. And apply it to your future political endeavors.

      Or “both sides” their way into an idiotic stance.

      When both sides are for genocide you should probably work against them rather than figuring out which to reluctantly support.

      And in 2026, you can also blame the non-voters. The ones who elected Kamala president, but are too stupid to understand that voting is an annual process, and Kamala isn’t a fucking queen that can enact anything she wants without the support of a democratically-elected Congress.

      Damn those non-voters, don’t they know they owe the genociders and their associates their votes!? Those are their votes, just sitting on empty ballots, being useless! How dare they expect literally anything at all! Don’t they know that political power is all about pledging absolute allegiance to a party regardless of what they do!? What IDIOTS!

      Vote twice a year, every year. Every. Fucking. Time. Why is that so hard to understand?

      Don’t worry, I do! I don’t think you’d like my selections, though.

    • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      12·
      2 months ago

      get pissy about one issue

      What’s the one issue?

      What’s ţ̸̧͈̫̥̞̹̭̯͎͇̹̬̈́̾͒̎̍͋ḥ̶̦͈͈͇̝̞̀̈́̍̎̌͋̃̈͋̌͜͠e̵̛̼̺̦͈̹̺͎̍̃̾̇̓͒̃̌́͂͊́͋͝͠ ̶̼͇͈̱͔͈̖̼̊̊͝ơ̶̰͇̯͉̘̜̞̻͎͇̙̊̉̌̍̓̓͝ṉ̶̨̫̻͔͍̟̺͆̀̈́̒̎́̋͑͋̚e̶̛̳̔̊̈́͊͑͌̂̋́̂̾͠ ̶̹̮̝̗̹͇̫̀͑͋̑͐̒̔͊͂̇̀͠͝i̸̻͔͙̖͆̔́̑̉́̌̓̎̓̑̚s̷̢̧͙̦̦͕̭̝̩͓̻̬̋̇̾̆̍̕s̶̞͓̠̣̠͕͍͓̯͓͈͉̑̐̆́̇̎̎͠u̷̢̙̻͍̟̻̜͚͐̾͛͑̾͛̔e̵̫̻̲͋, you little fucking nazi freak?

    • the_post_of_tom_joad [any, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
      132·
      2 months ago

      It’s really hard for me to understand why you stopped learning and started talking. You’re supposed to keep doing both! instead of ending your education at high school and repeating things the rest of us have dismissed along with our pimples as ideas for children.

    • davel@lemmy.mlEnglish
      133·
      2 months ago

      Blaming eligible voters: 0% of the time, it works every time.

    • frauddogg [null/void, undecided]@hexbear.netEnglish
      72·
      2 months ago

      Genocide is a pretty fucking big issue, cracker. If you’d sell Palestinians down the river to secure your rights, how long before you’re doing it to me? You’ve made a blood-in, blood-out bargain with the devil, cracker. You don’t get to opt out, now. You sold your soul for ‘security’ provided by historically-proven oathbreakers, cracker. Whatever happens to you next, you deserve; and when your enemy asks me where you’re hiding? I’ll tell them. Every single time.

    • تحريرها كلها ممكن@lemmy.mlOP
      23·
      2 months ago

      The ones who thought it was great idea to get pissy about one issue and stay home.

      There’s a difference between not voting for Biden or Harris because they support the genocide, and between not voting Democratic because the DNC and the Democratic voting base think people who oppose the genocide are just being pissy. The latter guarantees losing voters for more than just one election cycle. You should be building bridges with people turned off by the genocide not ridiculing them and insulting them.