Ok. So its something im sorta frustrated with in movie and film plots. Its where the characters seem to intentionally not tell other characters things for apparently no reason. So its like a fair amount of the plot would not exist if the characters would just mention relevant things. This is usually in fantasy types like in particular I am seeing it with the magicians and school spirits. I mean maybe behavior like this is common outside my experience but its weird to me.

  • Condiment2085@lemm.ee
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    2 days ago

    Thank you so much for posting this because I had the same thought a few years ago but lost it 😂

    Really good shows don’t have this problem as much. There were times in Severance (my recent show obsession) where I thought some communication between characters would have made more sense - but upon reflection it seemed fair what they were keeping from each other.

    But yeah some shows are like “if these two people had a 3 message text conversation the entire plot wouldn’t exist” 😂

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      2 days ago

      yeah its like to some degree this has been going on before, as people point out, but yeah to much just shoveling crap out and cheapening out with writing. Like things can be like this a bit. Maybe someone makes a bad call. But man when it seems like it runs constantly through the plots its like. ugh.

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    29 days ago

    no, this is a huge trope throughout the entertainment industry… in my opinion it has little to do with the genre.

    another fun game to play is ‘would this movie happen if they could pickup a cellphone and talked to x character’. many pre-cell movie scripts rely entirely on moving information from one person to another in the longest way possible

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        29 days ago

        It’s always been a common sign of sloppy writing. At the very least, a writer should create a situation that believably prevents the passage of information. Not just people being too stupid and emotionally blocked to tell each other. That goes for “I love you, and I’m sorry” and also for “the murderer is…”

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        29 days ago

        its always been pretty common, but its more frustrating today because communication is so easy to achieve. trivial even. we all are more or less able to communicate with almost anyone else at almost any time. theres simply no excuse anymore.

        theres also just shitty writing. the ‘im going to keep this a secret so theres a plot’ trope. the recent series Evil did a great job of portraying a close team of ‘professionals’ who constantly fail to tell each other important bits of information the entire series. its beyond frustrating.

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    29 days ago

    Writer’s strike, studios replace them, we get slop writing.

    We’re in the third act of this drama.

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    29 days ago

    Just got done marathoning Cobra Kai. The entire premise of about 90%+ of the conflicts on that show are based off this very trope. It was even more obvious when watching back to back seasons and they seem to show tons of character growth when someone actually talks, only for those same characters to go right back to the toxic silence immediately in the next episode.

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      29 days ago

      Ugh, I’m glad I never picked it up then. It has come recommended by so many people but I’ve been reluctant to invest in it.

      Makes me wonder what people see in that kind of plot line. I just find it unsatisfying and frustrating.