Yes, any servant of capital is highly disposable - especially working in the MIC.
Cancel culture ain’t so much fun when it happens to you, is it.
this isn’t cancel culture though, this is culling culture.
Deleting the record of a women’s scientific achievements isn’t the same as firing (or declining to renew a contract) of someone who’s falsifying test results or just being an ass.
I wonder which person you’re actually referring to. Have a few names we can “peer review”?
False equivalence. Firing someone for saying racist shit isnt the same a removing a person from a website because she is a woman.
Indeed, firing someone seems like a much more drastic measure, and as far as we can tell from the OP, Rose still has her job.
Also, this page about Women at NASA, which contains literally hundreds of articles about female scientists’ achievements there has apparently not been deleted, so this doesn’t look like some sort of systemic erasure to me. Perhaps her profile was simply deleted by mistake?
I tried clicking a bunch of them just to make sure they’re not all dead links, and so far I haven’t hit any 404s.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/page-page-disappearing-government-military-130001973.html
Thousands went offline
They were forced to start bringing some back
Huh. The only possible reason to conflate cancel culture with erasure is if you’re such a shit person with truly deplorable views that being forced to just fucking be polite feels like an attack on your person.
Everyone knows the dog whistle involved here, buddy.
I don’t think I follow that train of thought. What do you think cancel culture was except the systematic erasure of people with “undesirable” viewpoints?
Take your weak attempt at trolling somewhere else.
Sadly, that stooge isn’t even self aware enough to realize it’s trolling. Which makes feeding trolls so, just, tedious these days. No fun in it at all!! 😡
Actually, this situation isn’t about cancel culture at all. Cancel culture typically refers to public backlash resulting in personal or professional consequences for offensive or harmful behavior. What happened here seems to be a systemic decision to remove content highlighting women in STEM at NASA.
This isn’t driven by public outcry or social pressure; it’s a form of institutional erasure. There’s a big difference between being held accountable for harmful actions and having your achievements wiped out due to a policy change.
These two things shouldn’t be conflated.
I think you are misinformed about the nature of cancel culture — it was always a government program. Those mass account purges on Twitter over COVID “misinformation”, for instance, happened explicitly at the behest of the Biden administration. It was not at all the result of public outcry.
Also, many of the claims that were made (such as the lab leak theory) did, in fact, turn out to be true.
She sounds kind of sexist. Why does it matter what sex she is? Shouldn’t everyone be treated equally regardless of sex?
Wow.
You have so consistently dehumanized the women in your life that this statement actually makes sense to you? Like, it’s pretty well known that women are a minority in STEM fields. What the hell you so afraid of, that celebrating a woman’s accomplishments offense you so???
Maybe stop trying to gain power over other human beings. Cause the path you’re currently on? You fucking know where it leads. And no, dragging others down will never change the hellscape of fear and paranoia you have found. You have to walk out of the valley of despair; there is no other escape.
I hope you aren’t assuming I’m a man, are you misgendering me?
DEI is bad! Treat everyone based on their merits! Remove the bio pages for anyone not white and male!
… ?
It’s been said better by other people but the general understanding of the right’s use of “DEI” is as a convenient blanket slur.
It’s typically used against Black and Hispanic people the most, followed by trans people, but any/all women are convenient extra padding under the bus tires of their bigotry and insecurity.
Remember that their fascism is based in feelings of superiority in addition to fear. Use that against the cowardly bastards. They can’t stand to see someone “undeserving” do as well as or better than them, so they try to mow it down.
Fuck ‘em.
EDIT: It seems like Rose Ferreira is of Hispanic descent, hailing initially from the Dominican Republic then moved to NY and eventually secured an internship at NASA, and is now an astronomer and aerospace engineer. It seems like her NASA page got reinstated, maybe after backlash. She’s awesome. Hell yeah for the Streisand effect.
As I keep telling people, they keep saying “DEI” because even most Bible belt folks get uncomfortable when you drop the hard R they really want to say.
Oh absolutely. Anyone who rails against “DEI” is by definition a white supremacist.
Anyone who rails against “DEI” is by definition a white supremacist.
This is such a backwards take. “DEI” could always only end in misery, because it pulls people ahead of the line in a time when the working people are already having a hard time. “Is that person hired because of the colour of their skin or the sex of their body, or have they been hired because they’re actually good?”. It could only make a large part of the population feeling left behind because of their sex or race. What do you think that does to the social foundation of a nation?
Alas, I have no idea what a good alternative would be, but I always recognized “DEI” as a bad idea. I don’t have to be a chef to be able to tell that this dish tastes like ass, even if I can’t cook for shit myself.
That does not make me (or anyone else who thinks DEI is ass) a white supremacist “by definition”.
At the end of the day, it’s the ultrarich hoarding all the money that’s the actual issue - an economy that’s not fair to the citizens of the nation. The top 3 wealthiest persons in the USA have the same amount of money as the bottom 50%.
Careful now thats a nuanced opinion that doesn’t stroke my victim complex or reductively imply anyone who disagrees with me on complex systemic social issues is a nazi supremacist.
Prepare to be downvoted and hit with five paragraph essay replies picking apart everything you just said. You racist, mysoginistic, hateful, privileged, homophobic, transphobic, double checks progressive slurs & insults 101 field guide uhh third Reich bringing supremacist scum.
Not necessarily. They might be a misogynist, a militant christian or some other form of bigot as well. That’s the beauty of it, you can be “against DEI” as well as a woman or someone with more melanin than the “default” and you get to imagine they don’t hate you, just all those other people.
Just because you’re not white doesn’t mean you can’t be a white supremacist.
just like women can be enforcers of patriarchy, and the poor engines of capitalism
Case in point: Mark Robinson
Women and visible minorities are often given the absolute worst conditions for getting out of the shit cycle started by white dudes. This can mean that they don’t have great scores on tests and stuff and that can look like they are, by default, not as smart if you’re the kind of person whose brain is barely firing enough to allow you to breathe.
So you extend that out and suddenly it’s “wait if they get hired at all and they’re not as smart that means they don’t deserve it!”. DEI does, I’m sure, bring some people in that might not be the best candidates but it never brings in people who are unqualified for the job like the racists believe, and the even the metric for “best” on paper is clouded by the aforementioned lack of support.
They’re connected because these people believe that there’s no way a straight white male would ever lose to a minority or a woman despite the fact that most of the people who believe it are huge losers barely stumbling through life while ignoring the fact that they are supported by everyone else.
I’m a straight, white dude whose parents can financially support me when I need it shit’s hard enough as-is. To act like I don’t have serious privilege and like so many people don’t have it even worse than me…god I can’t even fathom that level of self-centered egotism.
Diversity, equity, and inclusion get in the way of their nepotism and cronyism hiring. If they were hiring based on merit alone there would be no problem being transparent and publishing their hiring decisions.
I thought my dad would have come around by now with everything going on. Last night he was gloating about how much work is getting done in the White House and how everything’s about to get a lot cheaper.
Insanity.
Ask your dad why the GOP needs to raise the Debt Ceiling by $4 Trillion in their budget bill, and how many of the now dozens of lawsuits Trump might win based on his performance in 2020 when he lost almost every single court case, even when Trump appointed the judges himself.
I tried that with someone on facebook. They retreated back to “we have to get federal spending under control.” Maybe so, but this group isn’t doing that.
Then, you should challenge him and make him set a deadline for when everything is supposed to be a lot cheaper. When people starts to get sidetracked from thinking critically, that’s when you need to make them set an ultimatum that either forces them to think critically, or make them set their own limit that you can then point back to later.
That only works for people who haven’t taught themselves to ignore constant cognitive dissonance.
Project 2025…
So how much longer before we get pissed enough to start doing something about it? I’m a white CIS heterosexual male and this is infuriating to me. This isn’t correction of DEI policies. This is blatant sexism and racism. Fuck these nazis.
Look into your local PSL or DSA. Us socialist are on the top of the leaderboard for Nazi killing and it’s not even close. Join the SRA too. This shits not going away with votes. Fascism doesn’t let you vote it out of power.
I do not recognize those acronyms, but would like to know more! Can you point me in the right direction?
Party for Socialism and Liberation (Marxist Leninists) Democratic Socialist of America (DemSocs) Socialist Rifle Association (All leftist welcome)
I watched AOC’s “What’s Happening & How You Can Take Action” video and thought it was really impactful, so much so I decided to write up a summary of the insights, copy pasted below.
TL;TR for what you can do about it:
- Know your rights and teach other people their rights
- Contact your representative
- Help organize for Florida special elections to elect Gay Valimont & Joshua Weil
Additional stuff that may be useful eventually:
- If something like war ever breaks out, engage in simple sabotage when you can. Short preview of link: “Whenever possible, arrange to have the fire start after you have gone away. Use a candle and paper, combination, setting it as close as possible to the inflammable material you want to burn”
However, we’re not currently there yet. We don’t need to wait until things get impossibly bad before taking action. If you think all that stuff like “contacting representatives” & “organizing for elections” will do is slow our collective downfall, then realize that a slowed downfall means more time to organize a resistance and more time for vulnerable groups to escape the country.
Also, feel free to copy-paste this excerpt anywhere if you’d like!
TL;TR End
Insights from “What’s Happening & How You Can Take Action” by AOC:
Executive Orders are not that powerful: For all the Executive Orders being signed, know that they’re not actually as powerful as they might seem. Congress can block Executive Orders, courts can block Executive Orders (you might have heard of this being done for the EO ending birthright citizenship), and they’re essentially more limited in scope/permanence than actually signed laws. In fact, much of the EOs Trump has signed are meaningless or completely unconstitutional, which is not a pointless distinction, because as mentioned before, courts are blocking these EOs.
Fascist dictators thrive on perceived power instead of actual power. They want to “flood the zone,” pump out so much terrible nonsense the populace becomes overwhelmed and docile. Don’t believe them, don’t become docile and don’t consent in advance. The reason Trump is using Executive Orders instead of actual laws is because he knows he only has a slim majority in the House (218R-215D, ie 2R’s could flip a vote, 2 vacancies in FL to be voted on 4/1, 1 R departure in NY-21 to be up for another special election)/Senate (53R-47D/I, ie 4R’s could flip a vote), and he doesn’t want his perceived power to crumble, such as when 3 GOP Senators John McCain, Susan Collins, and Lisa Murkowski blocked an Obamacare Repeal Bill “Health Care Freedom Act” from going through in 2017.
(In this case, by erasing this womans history NASA is doing a little thing called complying in advance.)
Action Being Done by Democrats: Apparently Trump did a bunch of stuff while Congress was on recess, and they only got back in session Feb 5th, which was why there hasn’t been much news from democrats. House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries recently released a 10 objectives plan for House Democrats to obstruct the administration
What You Can Do: While I’m sure we’re all positively exhausted with everything going on, at a minimum, you can know your rights regarding ICE Raids: Don’t let them in without a Judicial warrant signed by a Judge, don’t answer their questions even if you are a citizen, don’t talk to them without a lawyer. If you have extra energy, you can:
- Educate people on their rights by printing up Know Your Rights Cards to hand out
- Contact your Representatives urging them to obstruct Trump nominees while Elon is invading the Treasury
- Help Organize for the Florida special elections 4/1 for the House of Representatives. While it would be difficult for these +30R seats to flip (Note in the Jan 29th Iowa special election for Senate (a state Trump won by +21) actually flipped to Democrats), even switching a +30R district to a +10R district lets Republicans know their policies are unpopular and they should think twice before supporting Trump’s policies. Additionally, there will eventually be another special election to fill a House of Representatives Republican vacancy up for grabs in NY-21.
- Help Organize for other Swing Elections near you
Additional stuff that may be useful eventually:
- If something like war ever breaks out, engage in simple sabotage when you can (short preview: “Whenever possible, arrange to have the fire start after you have gone away. Use a candle and paper, combination, setting it as close as possible to the inflammable material you want to burn”)
However, we’re not currently there yet. We don’t need to wait until things get impossibly bad before taking action. If you think all that stuff like “contacting representatives” & “organizing for elections” will do is slow our collective downfall, then realize that a slowed downfall means more time to organize a resistance and more time for vulnerable groups to escape the country.
Contacting your Representatives: To contact your representatives, you can make a short 2 min phone call to their office, which will either be picked up by a staffer or go to voicemail. Representatives listen to phone calls when trying to get a sense of what their constituents care about, but other forms of contact (email, text, etc) are by and large ignored. Additionally, you should say where you live, because representatives only care about what their constituents think, not outside people. Note that the voicemails only record up to 2 min so be brief. You can find your representatives phone numbers at https://www.congress.gov/members/find-your-member
To express your views to your representatives, the format goes like this: “Hi, my name is [Name] and I live in [City, State, Zip Code]. I wanted to ask for your support on [Policy, Bill, etc]. [Anecdote if you have one to be more personalized]. Thank you for listening, my phone number is [Phone Number] and my email is [Email].”
I personally have just called my senators to let them know I want them to vote NO on advancing/approving all Trump nominees, and that I supported them continuing obstructionist actions including the 30hr filibuster against Russ Vought, Trump’s Director of the Office of Management and Budget pick. Florida 4/1 Special Elections for 2 House of Representative Members: Summary, trying to elect Gay Valimont (D) District 1 & Joshua Weil (D) District 6. You can sign up to volunteer on their websites (linked) if you’d like.
New York-21 Eventual Special Election for 1 House of Representative Member: Elise Stefanik ® will be vacating her seat to become the U.N. Ambassador for the Trump administration, after which within 80-90 days a special election will be held for a new House member. While it’s somewhat of a pipe dream, if Dems win all 3 of these House seats up for grabs, it puts the House at 218D-217R.
I hope this helped you get a sense of what you can do, feel free to copy-paste this anywhere if you’d like!
The problem is, where do we start? We’ve been, er, “taking the L” for so long, when are we going to start giving the L?
Drop the Democrats and support the Green Party.
PSL is the only actual revolutionary party in America that I know of right now. The green party is a joke.
No. Fuck the Green Party. They’ve disappeared immediately after the election like they always do, and we will not hear about them again for another four years.
They are not a real party.
Can someone explain why all this hatred for the green party? I don’t know anything about them but I wouldn’t be surprised if the reason for that is active silencing.
They are a fake party that comes out every four years (after primary season, when they could have become an actual viable candidate in our broken two-party system), to be a spoiler candidate that siphons votes from the Democratic party.
Every time.
Then they disappear for four years, and re-appear again at the same time during the next presidential election cycle and do it all again. They are not a serious party. If they were, they would have actual candidates running at state and local levels. They would participate in the primary process and/or campaign to switch away from First Past the Post system.
But they do none of that.
they don’t disappear. the media doesn’t cover them.
Fuck these nazis.
Are you going to storm the Capitol like your granddads stormed the beaches of Normandy? Are you going to only bitch about it on the internet, or are you actually going to do something about it - storming the Capitol not necessarily has to be a part of it - you can plan a better alternative.
You have to figure out how to reach people and get them off of the social media and bullshit news.
Someone like that I would say, “who told you that? Mark Zuckerburg? That guys a fuckin’ greedy little creep. Fuck that guy.”
But you can’t be too much of an asshole, you have to “rib” them and act like it’s kind of funny.
Typical American response. Yeehaw you gonna kill some people er what!?
Attacking each other is not going to solve this problem because the wealthy have been pitting us against each other for a long time now. It was the wealthy that caused WWII and every other major war where everyone but them ends up dying.
I agree there are better alternatives.
Typical American response.
Alright, calm down, no need to insult me like that!
I’m just getting sick of the keyboard warriors that bitch and moan on the internet about the situation, yet have exactly zero plans to do literally anything about it. They could write to their representatives, they could work towards Dems winning local elections, they could become politically active by demonstrating, etc.
But all I see are online complaints; no plans. Storming the Capitol should be option Z, but maybe Americans can start with Plan A, eh?
I think the issue is the US was founded by the wealthy for the wealthy. The solution is more than just writing your representatives, demonstrating, and getting involved with local politics. All these things can help the situation, but they won’t solve the problem.
We really need a new constitution that protects our rights. We need to be able to say everyone is guaranteed access to housing, medical care, education, work, and privacy. We need to state that governments and corporations cannot manipulate people anymore. They are using the best of psychology and sociology science against us, this is unacceptable.
We have to ensure resources are fairly distributed, that wealth is spread out, and that our political institutions are designed to resist corruption. We have to look past popular vote for representation along with all the other systems we use that trap us in this never ending cycle of pitting people against each other for political gain. We need to move beyond having the government be an abusive entity representing monied interests.
Until we get these things we will never be able to move on. We will forever be trapped in a system that only values how much it can extract from us.
Storming the Capitol is what the MAGA morons did. I hope the left is smarter than that.
Yeah me too. Storming anything is not likely the solution. If we get to the point of all out violence a lot can be lost in a short amount of time. But organizing protests or work stoppages can and do work with enough participation. But there’s the problem, enough participation. I don’t really know what the solution is but I am willing to participate even if it hurts. This shit ain’t right.
The original comment is a dumb way to say it. But fascism doesn’t let you vote it out of power. Fascism doesn’t respond peacefully to peaceful protest either. Organized resistance will require violence in response to the inevitable violence of the state. The key word here being organized. The time for peaceful organization and voting has passed. Once fascist are in power the only thing to be done in the political arena is meant to delay while an organized resistance force can be formed. I highly doubt that will happen. But history tells us that this is the only viable option. All other efforts are only meant to delay. But if you’re only delaying and not organizing actual armed resistance than your delay is without purpose.
Storming the capital is dumb. Hardening your local neighborhood with an armed resistance and safe harbor for the targets of the fascist is where efforts should be put. This is about saving lives and building allies locally. It’s the best place to put effort right now to protect the first targets of the fascist. Right now that is undocumented people. But they won’t stop there. They never do.
They want something not that different from the Taliban. Subservient women existing only to make and raise kids.
Still on Threads, supporting billionaire owned platforms.
Break the cycle of abuse already.
Complaining about the platform she used completely misses the point.
They intentionally missed the point
Even if you’re against DEI in hiring (which I am), taking down pages of women in STEM is ridiculous. We want to encourage people to know what’s possible and we want them to push for it based on merit.
equity and inclusion in hiring is about confronting biases in the hiring process, it’s good for meritocracy
DEI is an attempt at merit-based hiring. The only difference is what the definition of merit is. The definition that is based on past achievements is biased towards those who have previously had better opportunities, not necessarily better skills. DEI takes a look at the potential of someone in the context of how well they’ve done with respect to what has been available to them.
Someone who has a GED instead of graduating high school on time might have had opportunities closed to them because they had a reason for dropping out of high school (e.x. had to help family by getting a job), so it wouldn’t be equitable to judge them harshly for not having as strong of a resume as someone who had a “conventional” experience and was given more opportunities fresh out of highschool because they could afford to take an unpaid/low pay internship, instead of focusing on taking care of a family.
Nothing about either situation really can tell you about an applicants potential in the field or their work ethic or anything. But 9 times out of 10 the one who was fortunate enough to finish highschool on time will be ahead in the selection process for no reason other than they didn’t have life get in the way of their career.
DEI won’t be able to magically tell you which candidate is better, but it can allow employers to level the playing field and use different metrics to measure merit that might be less biased against people who have had nontraditional lives through no fault of their own.
Why are you against Diversity, Equality, and Inclusion in the hiring process?
The main reason I’m against “Diversity, Equality, and Inclusion in the hiring process” is it makes the average minority at a company worse compared to their white male peers, which is a horrible situation that breeds further racism.
My girlfriend is a visible minority in a STEM field. If people look at her and think “DEI hire”, that’s harmful, not helpful.
“Racist people use DEI as an excuse to be racist therefore DEI is bad.”
They could look at her and potentially think “DEI hire,” or they could not think about her at all because she wasn’t hired due to some factor relating to her racial background. What bass-ackwards logic.
or they could not think about her at all because she wasn’t hired
Lmao thanks for implying my girlfriend wouldn’t get a job without being a minority you racist
Your girlfriend works with racists. That’s not the fault of DEI.
How is it racist if the bar is lower for minorities? They will be able to get the job at lower performance
That’s literally not how DEI works. Inform yourself.
This guy is desperate for a troll
Gets an article about them removed
Completely erased as a person
Lucky for you, you’ll never experience erasure. Because you’ll never matter.
Lucky for me, I don’t value my entire existence on random people knowing my sad origin story.
hey maybe accept that you will never achieve as much as this person. Don’t pretend that a NASA article about you won’t make you feel successful.
Haven’t you read her post? Her entire work was erased alongside herself… I’m already miles ahead.
Don’t pretend that a NASA article about you won’t make you feel successful
Reading comprehension -20, but I guess that explains why you’d drink up this drivel
Maybe they value what they achieved despite having said origin story. I certainly consider that a value.
Maybe you don’t have such amazing achievements in your own life?
But that’s not what the post is about. It’s specifically about new people on threads not being able to read her origin story.
Yes, because it can inspire people. It’s a very inspiring story. People can be motivated to do things with their own lives by listening to it. I’m amazed this has to be explained to you why removing it is a bad thing.
Did I comment at any point on whether the article removal was good or bad?
Try to avoid writing any songs or singing, I fear you may be tone deaf.
For this community yes, but I think the over-dramatising works against the wider acceptance of DEI practices. Most people have never even had an article written about them, those people still have personhood, so does this lady. From that perspective it comes off as entitled and decoupled from reality. Who wants to listen to someone acting unhinged on social media?
Obviously, removing the section is wrong, and we should have these articles to highlight the achievements of women in male dominated fields. Plus highlighting that it’s been removed by the vile actions of the trump administration is important
Why would your bio be on the NASA website? What does that have to do with the exploration of space or technological advancement?
Why couldn’t it be? Why shouldn’t there be a section for “people”, to serve as motivation for whomever wants to follow their footsteps and work at NASA?
And also, supposedly, only women’s info were removed. Did they also remove the bio of men?
This isn’t a science meme
