• Sixty@sh.itjust.works
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    11 hours ago

    Everyone pissing themselves over Nintendo not putting the price in the Direct when the reason why was pretty obvious, I thought.

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    This is a rare case where a piece of consumer electronics is going to be quite a bit cheaper in Australia compared to the USA! Usually stuff costs more in Australia.

    The Switch is currently US$450 and will probably go up with tariffs. Meanwhile, it’s listed as AU$700 in Australia, which is AU$630 before tax (all advertised prices include tax), which is US$385.

    I imagine this is going to happen for a lot of devices. I’m an Aussie living in the USA and I never thought I’d see the day when buying stuff in Australia would be cheaper. Australia has better consumer protection too, around things like repairs/refunds due to major issues even outside the warranty period.

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      In Europe it’s €385+taxes (all advertised prices must include tax) which is $425+tax, with two (mandatory) years of warranty included in price

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      Regardless of price, Nintendo is a shit legacy company that is riding on the coattails of the 90’s.

      They never have games on steep discounts like their competitors, ensure emulations and artistic expressions are shut down immediately, and barely change shit to their flagship games such as Pokemon. They’re creatively stale and are blessed to have a rabid fan base who can’t see through it.

      I got a switch since my kid brought grades home, but that’s the last piece of electronic device I’ll ever buy from Nintendo. This is someone who has played back in its heyday the N64.

      People who ‘boycott’ and go back to buying what they boycotted because said company pushed out a halfass apology tweet deserve to lose their money.

      Edit: lol at the Nintendo fan boys downvoting

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        They’re definitely creatively stale, but they’re also undeniably good at what they do. They have by far the best selling console of the last generation, and are the only console company to consistently post healthy profits on their operation.

        Is it a bit naff that their next generation of games will almost certainly be yet another Zelda, yet another Mario, yet another Pokémon? Absolutely. But if their next Zelda game is yet another best-selling critically acclaimed success, who are we to say that they’ve got the wrong approach?

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        You seem to be missing the point, the Nintendo Switch is handily the most popular game console in US gaming history. It has officially sold more units than the PS2.

        I’m sorry that you don’t appreciate the switch, it’s an amazing general purpose gaming console.

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          It’s all right I wouldn’t say it’s groundbreaking. There are many portable computers including the steam deck that are far superior in terms of capability and openness.

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    In the US. Key part there is “in the US”. You guys deal with this nonsense. I intend to be playing my MSRP Vietnamese/Chinese console at launch, thankyouverymuch.

    Hell, I’ll take whatever stock you don’t, maybe we can get a tenner or two shaved off the price. I’m sure the “let’s sneak in the exchange rate and pretend it’s VAT” thing is starting to look less appealing right about now.

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        14 hours ago

        You misunderstood, I said it’s Vietnamese/Chinese because that’s where a lot of the components are manufactured and why the tariffs are a problem for US distribution in particular but not for other regions.

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        Well, yeah, but if the final store price is 750 instead of 450 the number of consoles allocated to the US market, let alone sold through, may be much lower.

        Given that tariffs could be lifted at random, just like they were set, not even scalpers would want to buy tech that could drop in price dramatically any day.

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          Presumably the same tariffs will apply to PlayStations and Xboxes too (both made in China with components from Korea, and the former being a Japanese company).

          Also, most PCs, laptops, tablets and smartphones.

          American gamers aren’t going to be overwhelmed with cheaper choices.

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            This is true. That said, presumably at least some of those have either a pre-existing install base they can keep selling digital games and services to or built-up stock.

            Nintendo has zero Switch 2 units in US households and will be expected to honor preorder prices. Who knows how much stock they have in the US at this point. Probably next to zero.

            US gamers won’t have cheaper choices to buy new hardware, but they sure will have the obvious choice of not spending money on unnecessary new toys at all. Especially because for how messed up gaming hardware is going to get there are going to be entire other market segments getting much worse that you don’t get to just opt out of.

            This is atrocious timing for Nintendo. But hey, Europe has 450 million people and you weren’t going to sell 100 million Switches day one. Shave fifty euros off that sticker and I betcha some of them will take that unused US stock out of your hands and even buy some games on top.

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    15 hours ago

    Did anyone check with reddit to see if THIS story would be allowed to use one of the classic angry face Luigi Mario Kart gifs in response or are they still scared of that one?

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    Pre-orders for Nintendo Switch 2 in the U.S. will not start April 9, 2025 in order to assess the potential impact of tariffs and evolving market conditions. Nintendo will update timing at a later date. The launch date of June 5, 2025 is unchanged.

    Wonder if the price of the console and even the cartridge games will change.

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          More like retailers won’t eat any of it and will take the opportunity to raise prices even more because they know consumers are expecting higher prices and they have pressure to retain or increase their margins to meet shareholder expectations.

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      Absolutely. The console is manufactured in Vietnam, which now has a 46% tariff. I really doubt that Nintendo’s profit margin is high enough to allow them to just eat that cost.

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          That would cost them enormous amounts of cash and hours of work just for one market.

          There’s no point, the best option is just to ignore the US and let them pay more than the rest of the world, even if that means fewer sales.

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      17 hours ago

      Carts and console could very much change. Some estimates say up to 50% up.

      Given that digital games will not this could make the Switch a de facto digital-only thing in the US.

      I mean, assuming Trump isn’t beaten with a stick into submission in the next couple of weeks. We’ll see.

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        12 hours ago

        He’s hanging out at a golf tournament today. I don’t think he’s feeling the pressure.

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    17 hours ago

    Dammm, the best part is everyone speculated that the price it’s at now was to predict and get ahead of tarrif pricing by already setting it higher. The fact that it’s not is scary.

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      I think the $450 USD was just keeping up with inflation.

      $300 in March 2017 when the switch originally launched is equivalent to almost $400 today ($392 and some change). S2 is launching at $450, if they were only expecting 15%-ish tariffs then maybe, but it should then be cheaper outside of the US if tariffs were the only reason. Electronic component prices have gone up beyond inflation growth, I think it would be easier to blame it on that.

      $80-90 games before tariffs sucks, but games have been $60 for as long as I can remember, and they’re only getting more expensive to make.

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        I would say it’s more that some studios are spending even more to make them, games don’t have to cost more to make as you can now make a lot more with a smaller team than you could 20 years ago.

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        No, it’s one of the most expensive Nintendo consoles ever. Only beat by the NES and the SNES. Those released when prices were at all time highs for this stuff.

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        God damn everyone has heard this stupid ass argument and it just makes you stupid to repeat it. Shut up.

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      The market wasn’t expecting the tariffs to be as insane as they were — which is why it crashed. They had been expecting 10% maximums, not minimums.

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      Well we knew the price didn’t include the tarrifs when we saw Europe get absolutely crazy high prices. Higher than the US and a lot higher if we take into account the dollar tanking right now.

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    This is the kind of creature comfort inconvenience that will tank this administration’s popularity. Americans are fickle and will not accept this kind of disruption to their lives.

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      More importantly, people who don’t pay attention to politics and didn’t realize that any of this had any consequences to their lives just suddenly felt it

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      14 hours ago

      One can only hope, but knowing how fucking stupid my right-wing, sycophantic, fellow countrymen are I doubt much will change.

      Pretty sure everyone who voted against him already hates him though.

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        I’ve been feeling like there are quite a few parallels to the Brexit mess in this past election and this administration’s policies. It took a while for the reality of Brexit to evaporate away the magical thinking; I think it’s just a matter of time before the same happens here as the cost of living shoots up as a result of these tariffs.

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          Despite some similarities, the demographics in the US are just a completely different beast.

          Our Christians are insane. Fox News has poisoned the minds of potentially hundreds of millions of Americans. American exceptionalism and the lie of “the American dream” has irrevocably cooked the collective minds of essentially our entire population.

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          14 hours ago

          I’m going to hold onto the spark of your optimism until I can light my own; your perspective does help and I hadn’t considered it. Thank you /gen /pos

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            The only issue is, it took years for that reality to sink into the minds of the electorate in the UK, and in the meantime the UK’s economy suffered considerably.

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          That’s weird, I don’t see that anywhere but to right of the picture I have:

          Nintendo says preorders will no longer start on April 9th, but the console’s June 5th release date is unchanged.

          I wonder if it’s because I’m in Europe?
          I made a search on the page for some of the key words, and the quote you made does NOT appear for me?
          And still with the quote, it doesn’t say if it’s ONLY changed for US?

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            There’s a direct quote from the company.

            According to a statement sent to The Verge by Eddie Garcia on behalf of Nintendo, it says preorders will no longer begin on April 9th:

            “Pre-orders for Nintendo Switch 2 in the U.S. will not start April 9, 2025 in order to assess the potential impact of tariffs and evolving market conditions. Nintendo will update timing at a later date. The launch date of June 5, 2025 is unchanged.”

            I’m also in Europe.

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              Thanks.
              But that’s weird, now I see it immediately, it’s clearly there 2nd paragraph? Also a search finds it no problem?
              Neither were the case yesterday?

              I have no idea why it didn’t work yesterday?

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    don’t worry good America people I’d play the games in your stead while you’re busy supporting your local brands

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    ELI5 smuggling a Switch2 over the Mexico or Canadian border. Not that I would recommend that or anything. For science. And fanfic.