How do you ‘piss off’ a vassal state that would instantly collapse (and never would have existed in the first place) without US imperial intervention? What are the consequences of ‘pissing off’ someone completely under your control?
Taiwan’s current government is incredibly pro-US. Trump understands that the DPP’s days are numbered given the rise of the KMT/TPP (which only lost the election because of a last second collapse of coalition). Taiwan’s government is pro-US in spite of the public’s interest, not because of it.
After all, Taiwan’s trade with the mainland and Hong Kong make up almost 50% of all exports. The bulk of this is in basic goods across the Taiwanese economy, not the product of one company.
In the past, Taiwan’s frigid relations with the mainland were due to sour memories (losing the civil war, getting kicked out, etc.) Today? Young people just want a prosperous life, and China is absurdly prosperous - especially for young engineers in tech. The US can either recognize that fact, or drag another country into war.
It’s pretty funny when foreigners care more about your own sovereignty.
The KMT supports normalization of relations with China. China was perfectly happy with the status quo until the DPP systematically stomped on the status quo and tore it apart
A. That’s not what you said. Normalization of relationship doesn’t mean subjugation
B. If the CCP wanted normalization they wouldn’t be talking about invading Taiwan. They’d be saying “we’re fine with Taiwan existing as their own nation we’re willing to recognize them and sign a peace treaty if they do the same with us”. That’s normalization
C. You’re blaming the victim rather than the aggressor. The CCP are the ones saying they’ll invade, Taiwan are the ones saying they’ll defend themselves. It’s like blaming the Palestinians for Israel’s invasion
Do you have the memory of a goldfish? Status quo under the previous KMT administration was very healthy. No talks of invasion, lots of talk about economic ties and cultural exchange. It was great, actually. Xi and Ma met, which was the first meeting between leaders since the start of the civil war. Ma is a true statesman and a symbol of what proper Taiwanese governance should be. Peace across the strait was possible for once.
Then, the DPP got elected, started sucking America’s cock, started inviting top US officials for state visits, received awards from American state-funded institutions (like the National Endowment for Democracy), increasingly remilitarized, invited the US to sail through the Taiwan Strait… And the rest is history. Odd how it’s always the US-backed government that’s the “victim” in Western media, isn’t it? Surely China violated the status quo with respect to crossing the median line on their own accord, not because just a few weeks ago a US warship was invited to sail through the strait? Do you even remember what the status quo was?
Taiwan claims territory that conflicts not only with China, but with: Mongolia, Myanmar, Bhutan, India, Japan, Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Russia, Pakistan, and also Vietnam, the Philippines, Malaysia, Brunei, and Indonesia. Recognizing Taiwanese sovereignty violates the sovereignty of not only China, but also all of those countries… Which is absurd. Cut the crap and look at a map. ROC sovereignty would basically wipe Mongolia off the map. The funny thing is that Taiwan recognizing the sovereignty of the territory that conflicts with all of these other nations would have no bearing or impact on their sovereignty claim with China itself… Taiwan simply refuses to do so. The only claim that Taiwan cannot make freely is one that shrinks the borders of modern China (e.g. in the Arunachal Pradesh area and the South China Sea), but for everything else they have complete legislative authority to recognize foreign claims (after all, China has already done so, so doing so would not violate One China policy). They won’t, of course, because they refuse to recognize China’s negotiations in those territories as valid.
Taiwan is incredibly pro-US, one of our staunchest allies in Asia, together with Japan. Great idea pissing them off.
How do you ‘piss off’ a vassal state that would instantly collapse (and never would have existed in the first place) without US imperial intervention? What are the consequences of ‘pissing off’ someone completely under your control?
Taiwan’s current government is incredibly pro-US. Trump understands that the DPP’s days are numbered given the rise of the KMT/TPP (which only lost the election because of a last second collapse of coalition). Taiwan’s government is pro-US in spite of the public’s interest, not because of it.
After all, Taiwan’s trade with the mainland and Hong Kong make up almost 50% of all exports. The bulk of this is in basic goods across the Taiwanese economy, not the product of one company.
In the past, Taiwan’s frigid relations with the mainland were due to sour memories (losing the civil war, getting kicked out, etc.) Today? Young people just want a prosperous life, and China is absurdly prosperous - especially for young engineers in tech. The US can either recognize that fact, or drag another country into war.
It’s pretty funny when foreigners care more about your own sovereignty.
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lmfao imagine thinking that being a US protectorate is living in a free country
Do you see the shit going on in the Yuan? The DPP is corrupt and sabotaging Taiwan’s economic growth for no good reason.
Young people want money. A nice house, good food, travel. It’s not that complicated.
Since when is the KMT pro CCP? Since when are they pro subjugation to the PRC? Since when is the KMT communist? Seriously, wtf did I just read
The KMT supports normalization of relations with China. China was perfectly happy with the status quo until the DPP systematically stomped on the status quo and tore it apart
A. That’s not what you said. Normalization of relationship doesn’t mean subjugation
B. If the CCP wanted normalization they wouldn’t be talking about invading Taiwan. They’d be saying “we’re fine with Taiwan existing as their own nation we’re willing to recognize them and sign a peace treaty if they do the same with us”. That’s normalization
C. You’re blaming the victim rather than the aggressor. The CCP are the ones saying they’ll invade, Taiwan are the ones saying they’ll defend themselves. It’s like blaming the Palestinians for Israel’s invasion
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Do you have the memory of a goldfish? Status quo under the previous KMT administration was very healthy. No talks of invasion, lots of talk about economic ties and cultural exchange. It was great, actually. Xi and Ma met, which was the first meeting between leaders since the start of the civil war. Ma is a true statesman and a symbol of what proper Taiwanese governance should be. Peace across the strait was possible for once.
Then, the DPP got elected, started sucking America’s cock, started inviting top US officials for state visits, received awards from American state-funded institutions (like the National Endowment for Democracy), increasingly remilitarized, invited the US to sail through the Taiwan Strait… And the rest is history. Odd how it’s always the US-backed government that’s the “victim” in Western media, isn’t it? Surely China violated the status quo with respect to crossing the median line on their own accord, not because just a few weeks ago a US warship was invited to sail through the strait? Do you even remember what the status quo was?
Taiwan claims territory that conflicts not only with China, but with: Mongolia, Myanmar, Bhutan, India, Japan, Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Russia, Pakistan, and also Vietnam, the Philippines, Malaysia, Brunei, and Indonesia. Recognizing Taiwanese sovereignty violates the sovereignty of not only China, but also all of those countries… Which is absurd. Cut the crap and look at a map. ROC sovereignty would basically wipe Mongolia off the map. The funny thing is that Taiwan recognizing the sovereignty of the territory that conflicts with all of these other nations would have no bearing or impact on their sovereignty claim with China itself… Taiwan simply refuses to do so. The only claim that Taiwan cannot make freely is one that shrinks the borders of modern China (e.g. in the Arunachal Pradesh area and the South China Sea), but for everything else they have complete legislative authority to recognize foreign claims (after all, China has already done so, so doing so would not violate One China policy). They won’t, of course, because they refuse to recognize China’s negotiations in those territories as valid.