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    I honestly don’t know, I could see it go either way. Do you think it would have been substantively better under Hillary than Trump 2016-2020?

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        You might not say that if you lived in [insert countries where Hillary would have started a destabilizing regional war]

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          Foreigners aren’t people, my friend. — Mitt Romney, I think.

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        I think Hillary also wouldn’t have set the stage for fascist take over with judge appointments

        Why not? Dem appointees do fashy things in a regular basis.

        Everyone knows you should never havecaaked RBG to say anything about indigenous Americans.

        endangered abortion rights

        Dems endangered abortion rights under Obama by not crystallizing them in federal law or doing any fighting whatsoever for the Supreme Court. The overall Dem strategy actually benefits from this precarity. They want to use it to campaign on forever. Hillary was this kind of person.

        Remember, under Obama, abortion rights had already been de facto removed in many red states. The Dobbs decision just added clarity to what was already the status quo, giving it ancillary legal weapons.

        moved as far backwards on climate

        Dems are just as bad on this. They push fracking and greenwashing and Biden has caused a crisis in solar panel availability with a sinophobic trade war. Both Obama and Biden prioritized oil and other fossil fuel production, making the US a better exporter. They just use different weapons to send money to the ruling class. One greenwaages it and the other doesn’t bother. Hillary was lockstep in this.

        They are in many ways more effective because they keep you complacent and accepting of scapegoats.

        and would have handled the pandemic better.

        Biden demonstrably handled it worse. He normalized the ongoing pandemic (yes it is still happening), deconstructed the monitoring apparatus, and ended benefits. What would Clinton have done better?