There is an ongoing attempt to create an equivalence of Trans Persons (and anyone exposing youth to LGBTQ+ ideas in any form, including loving families) to pedophiles through CONSTANT repetition, despite any lack of widespread evidence. There is also a simultaneous attempt to strongly advocate for death penalty for pedophiles. I’m sure you can see where this is heading …
Mass purge of the Republican Party and owner class?
Only if justice was class blind, but it’s not.
That door can be made to swing both ways.
Only if you have the power to do so.
If the Republican Party can purge the United Kingdom they deserve the win that’s impressive range.
Also, pedophiles are not all child molesters and vice versa.
In fact, most child abusers are not pedophiles. They victimize children not because they are children but because they are easy prey.
It’s about the power and control. If their victims weren’t children, they’d be called sociopaths or psychopaths.
Pedophilia can be easily treated but because of hate-mongers who have conflated these two things, many fear they’ll be arrested if they seek help. Even if they’ve never done anything wrong. Some do become abusers because they feel like they have no safe way of dealing with their feelings.
Trying to equate LGBTQ to pedophilia is using misinformation and lies to hurt and scare.
It’s the ultimate in hate and ignorance.
The question I want answered is was the (fake) word “pedosexual” made up by them or by trolls making fun of them?
“Pedosexual” was a false flag operation by 4channers to try and make people think LGBTQ folks supported pedos.
Was that with the MAPS thing?
MAPs is a 4chan troll yes
I honestly have no idea if MAPs are trolls or actual pedos trying to rebrand.
What are MAPs? First time I’ve come across it.
I think it was meant to be minor attracted person or some shit. I mostly just remember 4Chan trying to lump it into LGBT+ issues
Thank you for your reply.
most paedophiles are cis men. Cis women paedophiles absolutely dwarf paedophiles trans people even when accounting for population.
It turns out, people who violate others don’t need to go through years of doctor’s visits and dehumanizing bureaucracy to breach someone’s boundaries.
It’s just the same fascist projection repeated ad nauseum because it works. You immediately have to go on the defensive and tiptoe around the taboo subject of paedophilia instead of actually challenging their assumptions. Anything less gets you accused of accepting child abuse, which is just the first step repeated again. By the time you’ve even addressed the claims, anyone worth reaching out to has logged off and the fascists have inched closer to the levers of the state.
It never was about paedophilia, or rape, or abuse, or sports. It’s about exploiting emotions and appealing to a constructed idea of “common sense” that can tie you up in its endless tendrils so they can ignore you and dehumanise you more efficiently.
Transphobes aren’t using logic. They try to brand us as pedophiles to try to get rational people on their side and to normalize hate, but it’s a distraction. We’re obviously not pedos.
It also serves dual purpose because most transphobes look up to politicians who are literal pedos
Yuuup. Ten times out of ten it’s a republican politician who needs to “think of the children” a lot less.
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Of the infinitesimally small percentage who might be, (a) it has absolutely nothing to do with them being trans and (b) I wager they’d be less likely to act on it than cis pedos since the risk of violence is already significantly higher just from being trans. Not to defend pedos in any way- we want absolutely nothing to do with them
Use your brain
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You say, “biased towards the trans community,” I say, “biased against baseless bigotry,” as any sensible person should be.
Your ramblings may be scattered with statements that are agreeable in isolation (like “they are just people like the rest of us”), but your stance seems to ignore the fact that, unlike “the rest of us”, the trans community is being specifically targeted and marginalized, so for the sake of equity it seems fair (not biased) for the rest of us to more vehemently defend them.
Because children are almost always used as an excuse for hating something you don’t really understand. They’re a group that can’t speak for themselves, so it’s easy to frame everything as “think of the children”.
Everybody hates pedophiles, so by calling [insert group here], pedophiles then you get most people to hate you.
This is how propaganda works. Take something you want people to hate, and insist that it is equivalent to something people already hate.
Since at least the 1970s and probably much earlier, any and all non-heterosexual people have been painted as pedophiles by right wing / conservatives.
Indeed, a lot of the pedophile panic these days is driven by those people, because it is one of the few things they can get everyone to hate, and that hate often shuts down nuance and reason, and while real pedophiles are a problem, they want to expand that unthinking hate, that knee jerk ‘burn the heretic’ reaction to more people.
This is the reason we now see people attacking even completely fictional media, because they’re trying as hard as possible to slippery slope it.
Your mistake is believing that everyone is acting logically or in good faith.
Or, as it’s often the case, informed! Many people hate not just out of ignorance but also because everyone else is doing it but they don’t know why.
During the Lavender Scare, some homophobic government officials had to be explicitly informed what being gay meant because they were operating/ruining lives on a vague idea. :/
As someone who used to, although with gay not trans people, I believed that gay people were sexual deviants and that society accepting them would then go on to accept paedos, and that accepting deviancy was the problem that should be stopped.
Contrary to what others have posted I didn’t conflate gay people with paedos, or label the two groups as equivalent, except in that I thought they were both deviant.
It’s actually a very simple ploy they’ve used since before I was born (I’m not young). Anything they can paint as sexual, or that actually is out of the sexual “norm,” they will use as a scapegoat. They used it against blacks (coming after their white women), gays, and now trans. Pedophilia and rape are the two Worst Things, and if they can tie the Bad Guy du jour, that equals fear-votes. The best kind of right wing votes in all the land.
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it’s all part of the childist propaganda that says only people from outside of the family could ever hurt children when reality says otherwise. hence the church calling themselves God’s family, priests being called father, paternalistic bs like that
Are you telling me that lesbians weren’t allowed to get married because their was no groom(ing)?
I think a lot of it comes from thought correlation traps that people easily fall into. The path goes as such
Guys, going into girls bathrooms are creepy sex perverts. -> Guys pretending to be girls going into girls bathrooms are even creepier sex perverts. -> Pedophiles are the creepiest of sex perverts -> Trans people are creepy pedophiles
It’s all baseless assumption and bias, and full of logical fallacy’s but an incredibly easy train of thought that follows normalized cultural perceptions for decades. That’s why people get stuck on those issues, when it really shouldn’t be a big deal at all.
baseless
incredibly easy
The two criteria for whether a MAGA hat can be wrapped around a concept
It’s just to alienate and villainize the people they don’t like. Image someone as criminal and disgusting and other people will grow the same feeling. It’s what, Trump does too, with immigrants and trans people. Hitler did the same with jews. Spreading hate 101.
It’s very basic ‘think of the children’ rhetoric.
Our emotions are more easily manipulated in this way, because generally people are hard wired to protect babies and children.
So by associating trans people with paedophiles, right wingers are able to more easily hijack into what would otherwise be rational people. It also makes it more difficult to debate against because nobody wants to be labelled as someone who wants to hurt kids.
Best answer here. So much overthinking in this thread. Nope, OP nailed it, that simple, nothing need be added.
Pure propaganda.
Just before I left the right, some people admitted it was a “noble lie”, to uphold male supremacy, as if one is able to change their gender why should they even stay in highly abusive relationships.
Of course true believers will eat up the “protect the children” line, but the opportunists just want be able to beat their wives into a bloody bulb, who will still love them after all of that, they just want a stronger “cisheteronormativity”.
