Europe won’t be able to finance Ukraine’s defenses against Russia’s invasion on its own if the US withdraws support under Donald Trump’s next presidency, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban said Friday.
Orban said recent events vindicated the conclusions from his controversial July diplomatic mission to Kyiv, Moscow and Beijing and showed Ukraine was losing the war.
“The Americans are going to get out of this war,” Orban, who is hosting a European Union summit in Budapest on Friday, said on public radio. “Europe can’t finance this war on its own.”
Once again, Orban says exactly what Putin wants him to say
At some point it becomes malicious to even print what he says
Once again, a liberal is upset that a war might end and people might stop dying.
Once again, a lemmy.world poster says exactly what the state department wants him to say.
I’m sick & tired of this “vegetarians are just repeating Hitler talking points” fallacious reasoning.
Two people can come to the same conclusion without one parroting the other. In fact two people can come to the same conclusion for completely different reasons, or through completely different reasoning.
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Oh, I remember you 😂
I think we went over this already…
Are we going to blame Russian bots for Harris’ loss as well? Because the FBI was already trying to the week before election day. FBI links video falsely depicting voter fraud in Georgia to ‘Russian influence actors’
There is an unfortunate reality that there is a tipping point. At some point, Europe will need to cede Ukraine and stock up for itself to defend the next Russian incursion.
That is a crazy take. Europe could spend some money and help Ukraine win this without losing any of their own soldiers’ lives.
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As long as NATO stops its incursions, I don’t see why European states would need to do that.
I was saying that with the assumption that the US winds down support for Ukraine and is not seen as a trusted partner for European security.
I mean, the US Democrat administration blew up its European partner’s gas pipeline, which is a casus belli, so it was already untrustworthy.
Henry Kissinger:
Yeah the best way to discourage a revanchist is to give him what he wants. Succeeding in Ukraine will definitely convince Putin not to attack the baltics, poland, or finland.
Amazing how there are still people here who don’t understand that NATO lost.
You don’t understand anything about military reality, let alone actual motivations.
The CIA itself reports and has been reporting for years that Putin has no expansionist ambitions politically and no expansionist capabilities militarily.
There’s a reason why the Russian military has not tried to take Kiev and it’s because defending supply lines across the wide open plains of Ukraine is incredibly difficult and costly.
Russia is not capable of taking all of Eastern Europe and holidng and it has no plans or intentions to do so.
You don’t understand what Russia wants; you understand what Western propaganda tells you it wants.
INB4 NATO is a defensive alliance.
Just because you can cherry pick a dozen articles from the last TEN YEARS about NATO and Ukraine doesn’t make you right.
I don’t even need an article to refute all of that - Russia attacked a neighbor unprovoked, NATO has attacked NOBODY ever.
ComPleTeLy UnProVokEd 🤡
I just showed you any number of Western media sources on how it was provoked, but here’s another from Jeffrey Sachs: The War in Ukraine Was Provoked—and Why That Matters to Achieve Peace
For just two examples, NATO bombed the city of Belgrade for 78 straight days, and it destroyed Libya.
If your ideas of provocation are the same as the article you provided, you’re going to have to do better.
But why am I wasting my time arguing with you when you’re obviously here for some reason to carry water for Russia?
If NATO is really as effective as it’s claimed to be, then the baltics, Poland, and Finland have nothing to worry about.
The enemy is both strong and weak. Russia is a paper tiger that will roll over all of Europe.
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There is always a cutoff cost. For example, it cannot support Ukraine to the point that it’s own territorial security is compromised.
If the US allows Israel to annex the North of Gaza like it allowed it to annex the Golan Heights, Russia can just point to that as precedent and evidence of US double standards.
Yeah, why would Europe do that? After all its Ukrainians who will continue dying after being kidnapped off the streets and forbidden to leave the country.
Enjoy your life, and don’t think of hundreds of thousands dead people (not like you ever did that of course)…