• grue@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Do you want a fascist dicatorship? 'Cause letting assholes be dangerously wrong without pushback is how you get a fascist dictatorship.

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      I have MAGA family members and it’s not just 1+1=5. It’s a word-vomit tsunami of absolute bullshit. And if you convince them that point 1/367 is not factual, they won’t accept that it disqualifies anything else (including the idea that he never tells lies), and you will have to re-prove that point 1/367 is not factual a few weeks later. It’s exhausting, and I’m fairly sure that is the point (and I’m fairly sure this is also an actual Russian propaganda technique called a “firehose of falsehoods”, regardless of whether it’s being used in that context).

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        6 months ago

        That’s when it’s time to shame, ridicule, ostracize, and exile. People like that do not deserve the benefits of living in a society.

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          6 months ago

          Thats our national issue, democrats care far less about the fascist vomit of the right than they do being polite, “understanding,” and “reaching across the aisle.”

          J6ers tried to overtake the govt, hang em for treason. If their backers violently rise up, take em out too. Problem solved. Instead, dems make excuses for Republicans every day, say they can’t do anything about anything, then push a bunch of policies to further snuff out the left instead.

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            Democratic politicians feel this way because they are mostly friends with their colleagues across the aisle. They all eat at the same luncheons together, hang out at the same establishments in DC, attend the same fundraisers and lobbying events.

            I think the voters tend to have a different point of view from those in DC. Consider that even Republican lawmakers were running for their life on Jan6. Dem voters are growing fatigued with the constant gaslighting from the establishment politicians, and hopefully soon might provide cause for their “elected representatives” to flee as well. At this point we’ve been left with painfully few alternatives.

            Lastly just want to say I do agree with full treason charges for anyone involved with Jan6. Obstruction was a laughable wrist slap, this is far too serious for such measures. The rioters kind of had the right idea but for literally all of the wrong reasons. It’s tea party republicans all over again (which was funded by Koch bros of course). Instead of addressing this in a serious manner, Dems considered doing nothing at all for 2 years before they finally started bringing the wrong charges. Pathetic.

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    6 months ago

    Are arguments really that bad? I think this is a rather cynical point of view. I don’t want to reach this stage.

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      When the usual response to lets say… climate change, is nothing more than shouting how u r a commie (which yes, i am one), spreading goverment lies, and how the vaccines r gonna give their child autism…

      I just don’t waste my energy in something so futile, its their religion. And a confrontation about BELIEFS (at least for them) is gonna end up no where.

      So yeah, its just understanding how sometimes its better to only see them with disgust and walk away.